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PK Appeal - Playboi - 02-03-2022
Name of Character:
Corporal Demerion Qwuantell
SteamID:
[b]STEAM_0:1:195031386[/b]
Date of PK:
2/2/2022
Reason for PK:
"Corruption"
Why should you be unPK'd?:
Firstly, I didn't do anything corrupt, I took oil barrels off a guy, who is also a staff member, so he couldn't use them in RP to escape his cell. After we all talked, and he talked to his "Legal Team", my game crashed, legitimately crashed, and I said my game crashed in the NYPD discord, making sure to @ Mishka Petrov, because he was present during the situation when my game crashed. I also messaged him through DMs. When I got back in game, I saw the man who I had taken the barrels from, who is known as "Irn Bru" or "Cragger", I had asked him if he wanted them back, I got no response, he just ran away not saying a word, so I assumed he didn't want them back, so I went and I gave them to someone who actually wanted them. So, they could sell them, there was no sign of corruption in taking oil off of someone so they can use it in RP to escape. It also is a little suspicious that three of the four people involved in the RP situation were also staff, and somehow always knew where I was. No matter where I was, they always knew I was there. This also breaks a rule and does not follow the proper corruption rule found in the Server Rules, it states: Being Corrupt does NOT mean you are doing criminal acts, that means working on the inside of the PD with criminal factions. You cannot just openly commit crimes on that police character. If you want to be a criminal, make a criminal character. As soon as you put yourself in a corrupt situation it is possible to be PK'ed.
Here's also a list of people I knew were Involved:
Romullus
Osama Bin Ballin
Irn Bru/Cragger
Moses
It was approved my Romullus as the Don, and Draggy as the Admin watching it.
If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:
Shakur Escobar stated twice for the "reason" I was PK'd.
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RE: PK Appeal - draggydx - 02-03-2022
You took something from a criminal faction and stole it for your own profit thats corruption cops has been pk in the past for stealing from criminal factions regardless of time in the PD or not. I was going to deny this PK and give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't purposely steal those oil barrel.As a cop you know you shouldn't take legal items.However, you claim that you went up to Lewis Brown and asked if he wanted to barrels back. You claimed he was ran away and didn't respond. Typical protocol for that is to turn it into the evidence officer NPC or to hold on until you can return the item. You claim that we are corrupt bc it was 4 members of staff involved. I personally have no connection with the cartel and I have one low ranking hitman char that is enemies with the cartel. I'm mostly a police main, I don't usually do cop pks. You claim that I was bias but its make no sense when I was the one who promoted you on my PD char. I put my feeling aside and looked at the facts. You stole oil from a criminal and sold it for profit. You didn't give it back or dispose of it properly.
RE: PK Appeal - Playboi - 02-03-2022
(02-03-2022, 04:53 AM)draggydx Wrote: You took something from a criminal faction and stole it for your own profit thats corruption cops has been pk in the past for stealing from criminal factions regardless of time in the PD or not. I was going to deny this PK and give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't purposely steal those oil barrel.As a cop you know you shouldn't take legal items.However, you claim that you went up to Lewis Brown and asked if he wanted to barrels back. You claimed he was ran away and didn't respond. Typical protocol for that is to turn it into the evidence officer NPC or to hold on until you can return the item. Not only did you not do thst, you sold it as your own oil to a third party player vendor. You claim that we are corrupt bc it was 4 members of staff involved. I personally have no connection with the cartel and I have one low ranking hitman char that is enemies with the cartel. I'm mostly a police main, I don't usually do cop pks. You claim that I was bias but its make no sense when I was the one who promoted you on my PD char. I put my feeling aside and looked at the facts. You stole oil from a criminal and sold it for profit. You didn't give it back or dispose of it properly.I didn't steal it, I literally took it off of him because I know he'd try something like "/me drops oil bin on ground and climbs out of cell". And I don't "claim" to walk up to him, I literally asking him if he wanted them, he gave no response, so I figured he did not want them back, so I didn't give them back to him. I went and gave them to someone who actually wanted them. And I'm not saying you're biased at all draggy, I'm saying it's mind blowing how you could approve a pk for such a shit reason. But once again, even if I did steal something from a criminal organization, that still does not fall under the server rules for Corruption.
Edit: Evan if I did sell them for my own profit, they do not know that. So there for the PK wouldn't be valid enough, they just know I took the oil off of him and asked him if he wanted it back. And I know you were spectating me when I asked him if he wanted it back, I could literally hear your staff stick.
RE: PK Appeal - draggydx - 02-03-2022
I understand your viewpoint and I didn't want to do this personally but I have a job to hold. However, why didn't you destroy it or give it to the evidence npc.
RE: PK Appeal - Playboi - 02-03-2022
(02-03-2022, 05:03 AM)draggydx Wrote: I understand your viewpoint and I didn't want to do this personally but I have a job to hold. However, why didn't you destroy it or give it to the evidence npc.Because, if he did not want it, you might as well get some use out of it to someone. The evidence NPC does not take it, and if I would've destroyed it, I would've been killed either way for destroying a Cartels property.
RE: PK Appeal - draggydx - 02-03-2022
I based this judgement off a previous corruption pk of another officer. In that case he stole a watch and got pk for corruption. The point that sold me for the pk was when I saw you sell it. You haven't shown any type of evidence that you went up to him and offer him the oil back. However, in the cell he was asking for it back from what I saw during chat logs. With the previous rulings of corruption pks and these logs it made it difficult for me to deny the pk without being bias as I am a cop main that hired you. Personally, I would love for you to be unpked but the facts are on the table and it's up to UA to decided now. I hope you understand that it's me doing my job rather then me targeting you. It's nothing personal.
RE: PK Appeal - Playboi - 02-03-2022
But, I do wanna apologize for taking the oil, I was taking for RP reasons so he couldn't RP climb out of his cell using it, because I know he would do something like that. My game legitimately crashed, I forced closed it after it froze, so if it said "Disconnected by user" that way, it's because I force closed it. I genuinely wanted give it back to Cragger, but he literally just didn't say anything to me when I asked him if he wanted it back, I was going to must drop it for him, but he ran away towards town hall. And I'm guessing didn't say anything about me asking him if he wanted it back, the evidence locker doesn't take oil, because it's not illegal, but if I would've destroyed, I would've been killed too.
I would also like to mention, one of the Government PK rules states "To murder an officer or government official is a serious matter. Due to this, the reasons needed to kill an officer or politician are raised. They must have harmed your family in a significant way." I personally don't think 4 barrels of oil are harming an entire family in a significant way. It also states in the same rule this: "We implore to also pursue and exhaust all legal options before resorting to murder, else the entire NYPD will be impeding your business during their investigations."
(02-03-2022, 05:18 AM)draggydx Wrote: I based this judgement off a previous corruption pk of another officer. In that case he stole a watch and got pk for corruption. The point that sold me for the pk was when I saw you sell it. You haven't shown any type of evidence that you went up to him and offer him the oil back. However, in the cell he was asking for it back from what I saw during chat logs. With the previous rulings of corruption pks and these logs it made it difficult for me to deny the pk without being bias as I am a cop main that hired you. Personally, I would love for you to be unpked but the facts are on the table and it's up to UA to decided now. I hope you understand that it's me doing my job rather then me targeting you. It's nothing personal.I don't have any video because my medal won't record clips for some reason, nor did I think I was gonna get pk'd for 4 barrels of oil. So I didn't think I needed to record it either way. But, there were no chat logs from me because I used my voice. But I told them that I wasn't going to give it back because I didn't want him to use it to climb out of his cell. Again, I don't think you're targeting me, I just think it's a really really poor reason to PK someone.
RE: PK Appeal - Irn Bru - 02-03-2022
Hello, I am the person you arrested and who you stole the oil from. We PKED you due to the undisputed fact that you maliciously stole legal oil from your prisoner. Oil is legal and should never be confiscated off a prisoner unless the oil itself was used in a crime. You claim that you took it because “you could use it to slip out the gaps in the cells”, We all know that this is impossible and I believe you are making this up to justify your corrupt actions. It was also rather suspicious that you disconnected from the server right after taking the oil. As a supervisor in the NYPD you should be competent enough to know not to do stuff like that. We asked you multiple times to give us back the oil however, you refused and all my lawyers can testify to this.
I know it is frustrating as this is obviously a character you played on a lot. This was noting personal against you man and I think you are a very nice and funny person. Whatever the outcome of this appeal is, I won’t hold a grudge against you and hopefully we can put this in the past ?
RE: PK Appeal - Playboi - 02-03-2022
(02-03-2022, 11:39 AM)Cragger Wrote: Hello, I am the person you arrested and who you stole the oil from. We PKED you due to the undisputed fact that you maliciously stole legal oil from your prisoner. Oil is legal and should never be confiscated off a prisoner unless the oil itself was used in a crime. You claim that you took it because “you could use it to slip out the gaps in the cells”, We all know that this is impossible and I believe you are making this up to justify your corrupt actions. It was also rather suspicious that you disconnected from the server right after taking the oil. As a supervisor in the NYPD you should be competent enough to know not to do stuff like that. We asked you multiple times to give us back the oil however, you refused and all my lawyers can testify to this.Initially, when I first took the oil off of you, it was for RP reason, so you legit could not use it to gain an advantage in your cell by any means, so I took your oil stated, "Once we get this all figured out, I will give you your oil back, I promise you that." While you guys were talking, my game crashed, I got a VRAM issue so I just can't help that, but then for the fact that I asked you in front of the Police Station and the sidewalk next to the pub if you wanted your oil back and you didn't respond makes it seem like a bait PK, in which that is not allowed. Because Idgaf about 11k in oil, you just didn't want it back, so I made use of it.
I know it is frustrating as this is obviously a character you played on a lot. This was noting personal against you man and I think you are a very nice and funny person. Whatever the outcome of this appeal is, I won’t hold a grudge against you and hopefully we can put this in the past ?
Let me also add, you guys literally never asked for it back, you asked why I was talking it, mainly Shakur Escobar asking why I took it, in which I told him the exact words "I took his oil so he can't use it in RP to call staff and jump through the window of cell doors." because there are no windows on the doors to the actual cells. And the fact that I said, "I will give you your oil back once we're done with this and have everything situated", because there's no reason for me keep your $11k in oil, the time I decided to just get rid of it, was after the fact you ignored me when I asked you if you wanted it back.
But also, let me mention again Cragger, I didn't want to keep your damn oil, I didn't need it, I didn't want it. I literally wanted you to take your oil back, I was literally screen sharing to one of my buddies while he was loading into the game, and he heard me ask you if you wanted it back. You've also completely ignored the statements before, mainly the statement of the Government PK rule
- To murder an officer or government official is a serious matter. Due to this, the reasons needed to kill an officer or politician are raised. They must have harmed your family in a significant way.
- We implore to also pursue and exhaust all legal options before resorting to murder, else the entire NYPD will be impeding your business during their investigations.
Firstly, I don't believe 4 barrels of oil as I stated before is harming your family significantly, and if you believe that it is, you're just a cry baby and was looking for a reason to PK me.
Secondly, you guys took no legal action, as it states to do in the Government PK rules before immediately resulting to killing me. Because you could've easily taken me to court for Theft and Corruption, but again it seems like you wanted me dead, so you purposefully didn't seek legal attention, nor respond to me when I asked if you wanted them back.
Anyways, I don't believe as a staff member you would target people, especially for petty stuff like this, but it just seems a bit over dramatic to seek death for someone who again, "stole" 11k in oil.
RE: PK Appeal - Irn Bru - 02-03-2022
I believe all the facts of this matter have been stated. There no point on going around in circles here so I won’t be responding again. It’s now up to UA to decide the outcome.
As I said, I won’t hold a grudge against you no matter what the outcome is. You are a good guy, best of luck.