(11-01-2021, 07:33 AM)Stretch Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 07:07 AM)Garfielf Wrote: The guy in question was a whiteshirt who would stroll around the map saying "Trick or Treat" and would then proceed to punch you in the legs if you said trick and demand money if you said Treat.

He punched Xosad in the legs once before and broke NLR returning before doing the exact same shit and punching him in the legs.

this happened several times. I was also with Xosad at the time and he left saying he was going off for the night and didn't mention anything about a sit apart from some minge was bothering him (and I did see this happen once) he has also done this to other players on the server multiple times. his behaviour was nothing short of minge bullshit and once he punched red he shot him. I feel the punishment for LTAP was a little too far and especially three days. it was midnight for him and he couldn't have knowingly broke the rule, especially because you attempted to pull him to a sit and THEN found out he wasn't on the server anymore.

if he was on the server and got pulled to a sit it'd be LTAP but instead you attempted to pull him and found he left the server. he literally couldn't have not broken the rule at the time. this feels fucking ridiculous. if he broke the rule of RDM you should have banned him for that. otherwise the guy who was making the sit should have taken it to the forums and it should have been left their.

this reeks of Jumping the gun with an extremly harsh ban.

also spend 30 hours talking to Jesus Christ of Nazereth if you want. you and Somespy both made a horrible judgement call here that reeks of putting the cart before the horse. you literally punished him for something he couldn't have knowingly done by him leaving before the sit was even called. it's ridiculous to punish him for that. but that's my opinion.

Does not matter if it was a minge, he killed someone and left which is LTARP, not LTAP. He even admitted to it. So, if you are saying this is a bad judgement thats your opinion

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One rule break does not justify another

(11-01-2021, 05:08 AM)Stretch Wrote: Hello, I am the banning staff member!

      So lets start out on why I banned you in the first place.

- Someone made an RDM sit on you, I get logs and attempt to bring you, where I then saw you had disconnected only little over a minute later, I was in staff-call with Somespy at the time where I got his opinion on the situation and told me to ban you for LTARP (leaving after killing someone to avoid IC issues. I could have added the `RDM and LTARP part on there, however I was not sure on the situation as I do not know the back story to the situation it self. All I know is that you left moments after killing someone, which Is 'LTARP. Like I mention before hand I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super-Admin) And he gave me the go ahead on your punishment

(11-01-2021, 07:33 AM)Stretch Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 07:07 AM)Garfielf Wrote: The guy in question was a whiteshirt who would stroll around the map saying "Trick or Treat" and would then proceed to punch you in the legs if you said trick and demand money if you said Treat.

He punched Xosad in the legs once before and broke NLR returning before doing the exact same shit and punching him in the legs.

this happened several times. I was also with Xosad at the time and he left saying he was going off for the night and didn't mention anything about a sit apart from some minge was bothering him (and I did see this happen once) he has also done this to other players on the server multiple times. his behaviour was nothing short of minge bullshit and once he punched red he shot him. I feel the punishment for LTAP was a little too far and especially three days. it was midnight for him and he couldn't have knowingly broke the rule, especially because you attempted to pull him to a sit and THEN found out he wasn't on the server anymore.

if he was on the server and got pulled to a sit it'd be LTAP but instead you attempted to pull him and found he left the server. he literally couldn't have not broken the rule at the time. this feels fucking ridiculous. if he broke the rule of RDM you should have banned him for that. otherwise the guy who was making the sit should have taken it to the forums and it should have been left their.

this reeks of Jumping the gun with an extremly harsh ban.

also spend 30 hours talking to Jesus Christ of Nazereth if you want. you and Somespy both made a horrible judgement call here that reeks of putting the cart before the horse. you literally punished him for something he couldn't have knowingly done by him leaving before the sit was even called. it's ridiculous to punish him for that. but that's my opinion.

Does not matter if it was a minge, he killed someone and left which is LTARP, not LTAP. He even admitted to it. So, if you are saying this is a bad judgement thats your opinion

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One rule break does not justify another

(11-01-2021, 07:33 AM)Stretch Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 07:07 AM)Garfielf Wrote: The guy in question was a whiteshirt who would stroll around the map saying "Trick or Treat" and would then proceed to punch you in the legs if you said trick and demand money if you said Treat.

He punched Xosad in the legs once before and broke NLR returning before doing the exact same shit and punching him in the legs.

this happened several times. I was also with Xosad at the time and he left saying he was going off for the night and didn't mention anything about a sit apart from some minge was bothering him (and I did see this happen once) he has also done this to other players on the server multiple times. his behaviour was nothing short of minge bullshit and once he punched red he shot him. I feel the punishment for LTAP was a little too far and especially three days. it was midnight for him and he couldn't have knowingly broke the rule, especially because you attempted to pull him to a sit and THEN found out he wasn't on the server anymore.

if he was on the server and got pulled to a sit it'd be LTAP but instead you attempted to pull him and found he left the server. he literally couldn't have not broken the rule at the time. this feels fucking ridiculous. if he broke the rule of RDM you should have banned him for that. otherwise the guy who was making the sit should have taken it to the forums and it should have been left their.

this reeks of Jumping the gun with an extremly harsh ban.

also spend 30 hours talking to Jesus Christ of Nazereth if you want. you and Somespy both made a horrible judgement call here that reeks of putting the cart before the horse. you literally punished him for something he couldn't have knowingly done by him leaving before the sit was even called. it's ridiculous to punish him for that. but that's my opinion.

Does not matter if it was a minge, he killed someone and left which is LTARP, not LTAP. He even admitted to it. So, if you are saying this is a bad judgement thats your opinion

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One rule break does not justify another

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

(11-01-2021, 01:38 PM)Xosad Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

The only thing that should be mentioned here, is that you abused your power and gave me a 3 day ban for no reason, you admitted you didn't know the situation and just saw the logs and decided to ban someone, probably to try and make you look good in staff eyes, I have no idea. But you've banned a guy for 3 days for no valid reason.

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

And Im not threatening a staff report, Im stating outright that no matter the decision of this ban appeal I am making a staff report on you, because you abused your position and banned someone for 3 days for no reason, I am making it on you and somespy for abusing your position and targeting a specific faction. If its against the rules to defend yourself against a minge who's been constantly breaking your legs and trying to kill you, then Im leaving this server.

(11-01-2021, 01:38 PM)Xosad Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

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(11-01-2021, 01:38 PM)Xosad Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

The only thing that should be mentioned here, is that you abused your power and gave me a 3 day ban for no reason, you admitted you didn't know the situation and just saw the logs and decided to ban someone, probably to try and make you look good in staff eyes, I have no idea. But you've banned a guy for 3 days for no valid reason.

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(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

And Im not threatening a staff report, Im stating outright that no matter the decision of this ban appeal I am making a staff report on you, because you abused your position and banned someone for 3 days for no reason, I am making it on you and somespy for abusing your position and targeting a specific faction. If its against the rules to defend yourself against a minge who's been constantly breaking your legs and trying to kill you, then Im leaving this server.

In no way am I getting pissy at you you ignorning my DMs, not you're trying to fabricate evidence to keep me banned. I don't give a shit if you didn't DM me, Im saying it was an option you had yet you decided to abuse your position and ban an innocent guy for 3 days

(11-01-2021, 01:38 PM)Xosad Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

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(11-01-2021, 01:38 PM)Xosad Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

The only thing that should be mentioned here, is that you abused your power and gave me a 3 day ban for no reason, you admitted you didn't know the situation and just saw the logs and decided to ban someone, probably to try and make you look good in staff eyes, I have no idea. But you've banned a guy for 3 days for no valid reason.

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(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

---

I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

And Im not threatening a staff report, Im stating outright that no matter the decision of this ban appeal I am making a staff report on you, because you abused your position and banned someone for 3 days for no reason, I am making it on you and somespy for abusing your position and targeting a specific faction. If its against the rules to defend yourself against a minge who's been constantly breaking your legs and trying to kill you, then Im leaving this server.

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(11-01-2021, 01:38 PM)Xosad Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

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(11-01-2021, 01:38 PM)Xosad Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

Ok it's good to see a staff member lying, I've said Somespy targets flanagans, because he does and I have a 3 hour video of him following flanagans. Hue I've never said has hated me, in fact we worked together for months and he taught me lots of things about legal rp. So before you go and try and abuse your power again get your facts straight.

The only thing that should be mentioned here, is that you abused your power and gave me a 3 day ban for no reason, you admitted you didn't know the situation and just saw the logs and decided to ban someone, probably to try and make you look good in staff eyes, I have no idea. But you've banned a guy for 3 days for no valid reason.

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(11-01-2021, 01:04 PM)Stretch Wrote: Here is my final response to this appeal.

-You killed someone for breaking rules, which is a rule break it-self/ (Not even why you was banned)
-You left moments after killing someone multiple times (LTARP)
- You are not a new player to this server, you know the rules. Or should I hope.
- You have 3 Po's which shows you know of the consequences that will be given.
- I got a second opinion from Somespy (Super admin) and a Senior Administrator (Baldrick) They deemed this to be necessary nonetheless.

You constantly accuse me of having some kind of grudge against you despite me not knowing you whatsoever. As well as you always accusing UA or other staff
of having some sort of grudge against the Flanagans which baffles me beyond the moon.

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I forgot to mention the part of you getting pissy of me not responding to your DM's.
My explanation to that is you being a hard head, constantly arguing with anyone that confronts you of your wrong doings.

You wrongfully accuse UA such as Rem, Hue etc of hating you and constantly ranting on about it.
Not something I really care or bother to deal with.
You broke the rules, own up to it and stop threatening to make a staff report everytime someone gives you what you deserve

And Im not threatening a staff report, Im stating outright that no matter the decision of this ban appeal I am making a staff report on you, because you abused your position and banned someone for 3 days for no reason, I am making it on you and somespy for abusing your position and targeting a specific faction. If its against the rules to defend yourself against a minge who's been constantly breaking your legs and trying to kill you, then Im leaving this server.

In no way am I getting pissy at you you ignorning my DMs, not you're trying to fabricate evidence to keep me banned. I don't give a shit if you didn't DM me, Im saying it was an option you had yet you decided to abuse your position and ban an innocent guy for 3 days

Find me a rule that says it's illegal and against the rules to kill a guy who was trying to kill you. There isn't one, you banned an innocent guy defending himself