(11-21-2022, 05:45 AM)Mascotics Wrote: You guys PK'd my second in command, so I PK'd yours. This was verified by UA beforehand.

(11-21-2022, 05:57 AM)ThraxPrinceVon Wrote: This is meta gaming at its finest Rems mad HIS appeal got overturned and Masco cuz his little boyfriend got caught lackin in a raid so Rem BROKE RULES surprise surprise

(11-21-2022, 05:29 AM)Hedgimus Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 05:22 AM)Mascotics Wrote: I use to be in the faction and she told me her rank. This is not metagame because you have told me IC that you killed Zane. The meeting was Discord, and Rem is fully aware of the meeting and where it took place. But, it was done in IC and you were aware of that. It can be accepted as proof. I have provided everything to UA on this matter. Do you have proof you did say or tell anyone in IC that it was you? Even your own family gave you up for it.

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(11-21-2022, 05:21 AM)Hedgimus Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 05:08 AM)Mascotics Wrote: You had my 2nd in Command PK'd, I PK'd your second in command. This PK on Zane stems from an incident previously that you've double downed on when your first PK was denied. You admitted to killing him several times now and your own family has mentioned you killing him. We had a meeting, considered IC, with us and the NCS where you admitted to killing him. It was well known knowledge you killed him.

At least one of my family member's has her F3 and knows she is in Elm Street Piru. My character is also from Elm Street Piru previously under her command with knowledge of her rank.

 
When was this "mentioned"? I wasn't even in game for 2 days. That can be proven in logs I'm sure. I think you got the wrong information. 
You are also meta-ing by admitting that you were in Elm and pk'd me on some knowledge that you can't even use for another character that's not even aware of my rank.

It's the same character. I filed a name change from Johnny Savage to what it is now and paid for a head change, but it's the exact same character that was in Elm under your crew before you promoted and told myself and another member of Elm what your new rank was.

I have never spoken my rank to anyone IC unlike your "underboss" zane who just willing hands out his rank to anyone. If you want to provide proof that my char had any involvement in the pk of one of your guys go ahead because I'm sure you don't. Like I said I wasn't in game. You still are running with false information. At the time when you were in elm I was just a hood general that ran a crew that yes you were probably in. Seems shady that I tried helping you find the person that robbed you of 30C to only now being disrespected and called a bitch and killed. The fact that you retaliated against me has no bearing since how would you have any knowledge of my current rank or have any IC knowledge that my family had any involvement?

(11-21-2022, 04:57 AM)ThraxPrinceVon Wrote:

1. If you intend to retaliate for a PK against your family by another’s you must prove you have 100% certain IC knowledge that it was that family that attacked you, you then may retaliate an equal amount of PKs. Ideally you go after the hitman himself. (EVIDENCE MUST BE PROVIDED)
   How does Mcbarrel know that elm was even involved pk other than rem telling him?
   

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The only retaliation here is rem retaliating against me and dev kody for the zane pk which follows the rules HE is completely bias and HE does not follow the rules of the server. From what masco addmitted ic to not being part of the raid This is all meta

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There is no possible way for masco to have IC evidence

(11-21-2022, 06:58 AM)Tf2 Monkey Wrote: Yeah so basically I was with kelly at the time of the planned assassination. Kelly had nothing to do with it and although I have 0 proof Zane was clearly meta gaming because as soon as the hitman was going to go to the target Zane magically logged on what a coincidence

(11-21-2022, 04:57 AM)ThraxPrinceVon Wrote:

1. If you intend to retaliate for a PK against your family by another’s you must prove you have 100% certain IC knowledge that it was that family that attacked you, you then may retaliate an equal amount of PKs. Ideally you go after the hitman himself. (EVIDENCE MUST BE PROVIDED)
   How does Mcbarrel know that elm was even involved pk other than rem telling him?
   

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The only retaliation here is rem retaliating against me and dev kody for the zane pk which follows the rules HE is completely bias and HE does not follow the rules of the server. From what masco addmitted ic to not being part of the raid This is all meta

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There is no possible way for masco to have IC evidence

(11-21-2022, 06:58 AM)Tf2 Monkey Wrote: Yeah so basically I was with kelly at the time of the planned assassination. Kelly had nothing to do with it and although I have 0 proof Zane was clearly meta gaming because as soon as the hitman was going to go to the target Zane magically logged on what a coincidence

(11-21-2022, 10:05 AM)Zane Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 05:29 AM)Hedgimus Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 05:22 AM)Mascotics Wrote: I use to be in the faction and she told me her rank. This is not metagame because you have told me IC that you killed Zane. The meeting was Discord, and Rem is fully aware of the meeting and where it took place. But, it was done in IC and you were aware of that. It can be accepted as proof. I have provided everything to UA on this matter. Do you have proof you did say or tell anyone in IC that it was you? Even your own family gave you up for it.

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(11-21-2022, 05:21 AM)Hedgimus Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 05:08 AM)Mascotics Wrote: You had my 2nd in Command PK'd, I PK'd your second in command. This PK on Zane stems from an incident previously that you've double downed on when your first PK was denied. You admitted to killing him several times now and your own family has mentioned you killing him. We had a meeting, considered IC, with us and the NCS where you admitted to killing him. It was well known knowledge you killed him.

At least one of my family member's has her F3 and knows she is in Elm Street Piru. My character is also from Elm Street Piru previously under her command with knowledge of her rank.

 
When was this "mentioned"? I wasn't even in game for 2 days. That can be proven in logs I'm sure. I think you got the wrong information. 
You are also meta-ing by admitting that you were in Elm and pk'd me on some knowledge that you can't even use for another character that's not even aware of my rank.

It's the same character. I filed a name change from Johnny Savage to what it is now and paid for a head change, but it's the exact same character that was in Elm under your crew before you promoted and told myself and another member of Elm what your new rank was.

I have never spoken my rank to anyone IC unlike your "underboss" zane who just willing hands out his rank to anyone. If you want to provide proof that my char had any involvement in the pk of one of your guys go ahead because I'm sure you don't. Like I said I wasn't in game. You still are running with false information. At the time when you were in elm I was just a hood general that ran a crew that yes you were probably in. Seems shady that I tried helping you find the person that robbed you of 30C to only now being disrespected and called a bitch and killed. The fact that you retaliated against me has no bearing since how would you have any knowledge of my current rank or have any IC knowledge that my family had any involvement?

i never gave my rank out to anyone 4 people had my f3 you thrax, drevin and masco. so dont say i gave my rank out i have never once said what my rank was IC enless it was to masco himself.

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(11-21-2022, 04:57 AM)ThraxPrinceVon Wrote:

1. If you intend to retaliate for a PK against your family by another’s you must prove you have 100% certain IC knowledge that it was that family that attacked you, you then may retaliate an equal amount of PKs. Ideally you go after the hitman himself. (EVIDENCE MUST BE PROVIDED)
   How does Mcbarrel know that elm was even involved pk other than rem telling him?
   

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The only retaliation here is rem retaliating against me and dev kody for the zane pk which follows the rules HE is completely bias and HE does not follow the rules of the server. From what masco addmitted ic to not being part of the raid This is all meta

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There is no possible way for masco to have IC evidence

its crazy how you had your bf kody approve the PK after UA deemed it not reasonable.

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(11-21-2022, 06:58 AM)Tf2 Monkey Wrote: Yeah so basically I was with kelly at the time of the planned assassination. Kelly had nothing to do with it and although I have 0 proof Zane was clearly meta gaming because as soon as the hitman was going to go to the target Zane magically logged on what a coincidence

Crazy how i was asleep for the whole thing aint it get your fuckin facts right. just slept for 14 hrs so dont say i was there i got logs to prove it

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(11-21-2022, 04:57 AM)ThraxPrinceVon Wrote:

1. If you intend to retaliate for a PK against your family by another’s you must prove you have 100% certain IC knowledge that it was that family that attacked you, you then may retaliate an equal amount of PKs. Ideally you go after the hitman himself. (EVIDENCE MUST BE PROVIDED)
   How does Mcbarrel know that elm was even involved pk other than rem telling him?
   

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The only retaliation here is rem retaliating against me and dev kody for the zane pk which follows the rules HE is completely bias and HE does not follow the rules of the server. From what masco addmitted ic to not being part of the raid This is all meta

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There is no possible way for masco to have IC evidence

the IC evidence is common since my guy we dont have a problem with anyone but you, you just keep starting shit after many attempts to have peace so why wouldnt we think its you. you hold on to a grudge that even Kody has moved past. stop living in the past and move forward.

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(11-21-2022, 06:58 AM)Tf2 Monkey Wrote: Yeah so basically I was with kelly at the time of the planned assassination. Kelly had nothing to do with it and although I have 0 proof Zane was clearly meta gaming because as soon as the hitman was going to go to the target Zane magically logged on what a coincidence

heres proof from when i last disconnected to prove i wasnt there. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pqbx5Hb2uDo70uY8B7ygFim3Ya6F1SosTRedZGXoFb0/edit?usp=sharing

(11-21-2022, 04:43 PM)Rem Wrote: Don't reply to the appeal unless you are directly involved. Let's not baselessly accuse staff of metagaming on their staff chars.

(11-21-2022, 08:24 PM)ThraxPrinceVon Wrote: As a final note if they engaged in a shootout with Bay guys, how do dey know who’s bullet killed Zane? How can dey blame it on Piru?
How can Mr.MetaMasco even retaliate? Let me get dis straight he gunna retaliate against elm because IRA Choose to raid Elm property. Only retaliation here is from  staff against me because the second zane pk was approved. Maybe if zane didnt want to be pkd he shouldnt have participated in pk active situation. but to pk elm members over dis is meta and a sad excuse for rp 
Its funny i have been banned coutless times for rule breaking but others dont have to follow those rules right. Takes me 2weeks to get a raid pk approved will video audio and photographic evidence aswell as two admins witnessing but McMetaSnake can get a pk da day he requests it with OOC information.

(11-21-2022, 09:00 PM)Zane Wrote:

(11-21-2022, 08:24 PM)ThraxPrinceVon Wrote: As a final note if they engaged in a shootout with Bay guys, how do dey know who’s bullet killed Zane? How can dey blame it on Piru?
How can Mr.MetaMasco even retaliate? Let me get dis straight he gunna retaliate against elm because IRA Choose to raid Elm property. Only retaliation here is from  staff against me because the second zane pk was approved. Maybe if zane didnt want to be pkd he shouldnt have participated in pk active situation. but to pk elm members over dis is meta and a sad excuse for rp 
Its funny i have been banned coutless times for rule breaking but others dont have to follow those rules right. Takes me 2weeks to get a raid pk approved will video audio and photographic evidence aswell as two admins witnessing but McMetaSnake can get a pk da day he requests it with OOC information.

They Wouldnt Have approved the PK if there wasnt IC evidence we dont get special treatment you just dumb.

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1. 1. You are a garbage mod  Read the rules before you go spewing out dat shythole of yours u dead bitch