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Morris Cassel - PK - dandead10 - 04-21-2021
Name of Character: Morris Cassel
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:169201981
Date of PK: 4/21/2021
Reason for PK: "Underselling"
Why should you be unPK'd?: Generally speaking, I was informed by Cajun today that there was a valid hit on me, as it seems a person from a faction had my general information and name as of apparent, and apparently the hit was sanctioned from a Don from another major crime family. However, I would argue that "underselling" whatever that means isn't a viable reason for a PK, considering the fact that I don't believe selling guns for whatever price is a viable reason for a player kill, especially since the matter of price is subjective. Otherwise, anyone could PK from any gunstore simply for selling guns at whatever price.
That, and I've never shared my name with anyone outside of my own faction, so as a result, I don't believe this is valid. I've already deleted the character, as I wasn't exactly sure how this unPK process works, but I'd like to know the staff consensus on this matter, especially as I've been pked twice within the past day or two despite never mugging, robbing, or randomly murdering people from other families to justify being PKed. I would argue that selling guns at whatever price is marked is not harming any family in question. This is especially true since a person can simply choose not to purchase a firearm. If they deem it as "insulting", then it's still a weak claim.
If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines:
Reasons:
● A valid PK reason is required for all PK’s. A PK’s approval is entirely dependent on the reason given, if you give a weak reason such as “he disrespected me” then your PK will not be approved. A list of some valid PK reasons, but not all valid reasons are as follows.
○ If they’re not in your family, they must have done something to directly harm the family, yourself, or another member of the family. To acquire this PK you should first speak to your don, and then the Commission to get the hit sanction. If you Kill another made man without it being sanctioned there is a steep penalty.
RE: Morris Cassel - PK - Romullus - 04-21-2021
Hey, I would consider myself directly involved with this so ill just say this.
The first reason for the pk that the staff mentionned was that I ordered his pk (Morris Cassel is in my faction and im the don). I never ordred his pk and I dont understand how that mistake can be made. Also, we dont undersell guns thats just false and I dont see how that could be a pk reason in the first place.
please dont delete this post
RE: Morris Cassel - PK - Cajun - 04-21-2021
This hit was conducted by Murder INC with the express blessing of another Don. While I admit to not having my story straight the first time I talked to Morris, this was because the Murder Inc. hitman himself was misinformed while conducting the hit.
I merely acted upon the fact that this was a hit sanctioned by Murder Inc. higherups, as well as a Don of another faction. Apparently the individual in question was going to the affected party's store, and specifically asking for a list of prices for the express purpose of undercutting them. Unless I am presented with the video(s) I have requested from those contracting the hit, I think this should be voided.
Morris Cassel - PK - Rem - 04-21-2021
Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.
You deleted your character.
The appeal was going to be accepted, but deleting your character is irreversible.
You may not re-appeal this PK.