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PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Black_George - 07-22-2021
Name of Character: Dragoslav Vaykos
SteamID:STEAM_0:0:222114307
Date of PK:22.07.2021
Reason for PK: Excessive Use of Force
Why should you be unPK'd?:
1. The rules changed without notice to people, there was no announcment on the Diverege main discord.
2. I was exercising my RP job
3. The Flannagan's were breaking server rules at the first place by blocking me and a officer, we pointed guns at them and told them move away or you will be shot, then I told them again and again, then I shot the roof and then told it again. They didn't so then I opened fire on a guy and shot him in the head.
4. If this PK gets denied, it will allow every NYPD to get PKed baited.
5. This incident: [color=var(--text-link)]https://divergenet.works/forums/showthread.php?tid=1649[/color]
6: I called a sit for the guy I shot Rem was the Staff member doing the sit. I told the guy that I won't PK him, but I could and also that he should warn the other to not do that, cuz I can PK them. The guy I shot told in front of Rem that he couldn't hear me because of the others yelling.
7. It doesn't go against the rules: https://divergenet.works/forums/showthread.php?tid=4
8. My man this is petty
9. A fellow German-speaking guy recorded it.
If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://medal.tv/clips/59059135/d1337maKoq7m
[color=var(--text-link)]https://medal.tv/clips/3ZMxTYTnlkWQ3/rwUC0BUWfFex[/color]
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/866702707834617896/867881985469054977/unknown.png
6: I called a sit for the guy I shot Rem was the Staff member doing the sit. I told the guy that I won't PK him, but I could and also that he should warn the other to not do that, cuz I can PK them. The guy I shot told in front of Rem that he couldn't hear me because of the others yelling.
Edit: 6: I called a sit for the guy I shot Rem was the Staff member doing the sit. I told the guy that I won't PK him, but I could and also that he should warn the other to not do that, cuz I can PK them for that (Breaking FearRP). The guy I shot told in front of Rem that he couldn't hear me because of the others yelling.
RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Sp3ctre - 07-22-2021
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RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - [DV-N] Lovsos - 07-22-2021
"Help im being shot by the cops come save me guys yeah lets metagame and bodyblock"
RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Black_George - 07-22-2021
Also they metagamed on this clip https://medal.tv/clips/3ZMxTYTnlkWQ3/fhnGgRi9lkoJ
"Help im being shot by the cops come save me guys"
RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Sp3ctre - 07-22-2021
(07-22-2021, 10:18 PM)Dragoslav Vaykos Wrote: Also they metagamed on this clip https://medal.tv/clips/3ZMxTYTnlkWQ3/fhnGgRi9lkoJ
"Help im being shot by the cops come save me guys"
In all fairness, Our discord VC is In Character.
RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Rem - 07-22-2021
I accepted the PK on the basis of this clip: https://medal.tv/clips/3ZMxxsRAg6TRn/d1337HZg2qxc
While I don't believe excessive force is always and should be a PK reason, the PK guidelines do not have every situation covered. As it states that PKs are discretion, and I believe this situation was not handled by the officer correctly and angered the mob in RP. Maybe if you can provide some context on why you were holding him at gun point to begin with, that would help a lot more.
Also OOC rulebreaks don't always mean the situation is automatically voided.
Please don't post unnecessary things on PK appeals, especially if you were not directly involved.
RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Black_George - 07-22-2021
I had to put them under FearRP, so they would have moved. I had many occasions where I did not use this force to get my way and I died, this is the most effective thing to do, sadly.
RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Michael Flanagan - 07-22-2021
What you did was straight up murder... i dont see the argument, murder = pk able offense, you cant kill a guy for standing in your way in a crowded place in which it was hard to move anywhere
another thing is just because they dont do what you say when they got a gun to them does not mean you can shoot them, its still illegal to do, you shot a guy for standing infront of you, that is stupid
and on your point on "if this gets declined then it allowed NYPD to be baited" is wrong, you did not follow your excessive force rules and you cant just murder people at your own.
The fact that you have said in PD discord that your getting unpk' ed with such confidence shows that you do think your invincable and can do whatever you want, such as shooting a guy who was holding nothing posing no threat.
To UNPK him is just unfair, and a blatant disregard for any rule. Using excessive force in the NYPD is illegal and constitutes as murder if you killed the person with excessive force, that being illegal and you being in a government faction means your corrupt. thats how corruption works, gov official + illegal acts = corruption
I wouldnt have PK'ed you if this had been the first time I have seen you do this, but you have done this same shooting people for no reason shit on MULTIPLE occasions, hell you killed a guy for standing near webers car, why not fucking taze or some shit, no you just kill people and you rely on the admins to protect you because your a cop and you obviously feel the laws dont apply to you.
If we seen this in another perspective, lets say I am drago in this situation and some guy is standing infront of me and wont move when i have a gun to his head, me shooting him would get me arrested for murder or pk'ed by that mans associates. WHICH IS FAIR.
FearRP is a rule in which im near certain people can choose to break at their own risk, if they die they can be pk'ed, but that does not mean you can just shoot them anyway as a cop and have no consequences.
RE: PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Black_George - 07-22-2021
(07-22-2021, 10:45 PM)Michael Flanagan Wrote: What you did was straight up murder... i dont see the argument, murder = pk able offense, you cant kill a guy for standing in your way in a crowded place in which it was hard to move anywhereFlanagan's were body blocking us and breaking fear RP to avoid the police arresting someone. This should be dealt with by IA in the PD, its not a PK reason. You guys are constantly baiting cops such as Weber and myself just to get a PK reason, you even done it to Captain Lewis Brown aswell and he got unpked
another thing is just because they dont do what you say when they got a gun to them does not mean you can shoot them, its still illegal to do, you shot a guy for standing infront of you, that is stupid
and on your point on "if this gets declined then it allowed NYPD to be baited" is wrong, you did not follow your excessive force rules and you cant just murder people at your own.
The fact that you have said in PD discord that your getting unpk' ed with such confidence shows that you do think your invincable and can do whatever you want, such as shooting a guy who was holding nothing posing no threat.
To UNPK him is just unfair, and a blatant disregard for any rule. Using excessive force in the NYPD is illegal and constitutes as murder if you killed the person with excessive force, that being illegal and you being in a government faction means your corrupt. thats how corruption works, gov official + illegal acts = corruption
I wouldnt have PK'ed you if this had been the first time I have seen you do this, but you have done this same shooting people for no reason shit on MULTIPLE occasions, hell you killed a guy for standing near webers car, why not fucking taze or some shit, no you just kill people and you rely on the admins to protect you because your a cop and you obviously feel the laws dont apply to you.
If we seen this in another perspective, lets say I am drago in this situation and some guy is standing infront of me and wont move when i have a gun to his head, me shooting him would get me arrested for murder or pk'ed by that mans associates. WHICH IS FAIR.
FearRP is a rule in which im near certain people can choose to break at their own risk, if they die they can be pk'ed, but that does not mean you can just shoot them anyway as a cop and have no consequences.
PK - Dragoslav Vaykos - Rem - 07-22-2021
Your appeal has been reviewed and accepted.
Your character has been reinstated and can be used again.