Just additional proof that he was instigating the whole time. Honestly gents what we did was stupid , but at the same time i feel like we were completely baited into this whole situation , i don't think its right for a higher up to be on his alt character and instigating against the scotts and then shooting us in the back maybe that's just me but you be the judge of that to be that's a obvious case of Metagaming and PK baiting. 

(09-01-2023, 11:09 AM)yort Wrote: I am not pretending anything. You say "Also you keep saying jokingly but none of the proof provided shows anything was done JOKINGLY like you claim", the proof is that I didn't do anything that I said?????? I said I want to kill a scot, I never killed a scot. I said I wanted to mug a scot, I never mugged a scot. etc etc, it was simply all talk, no show. I jokingly was talking shit to my faction on an alt character, that's all I did. Are you saying that I wasn't jokingly talking shit to my faction? Man I guess I hate my own faction.

The entire time I was with yall, I never directed anything to you guys. Never suggested, never asked, never told, never instigated, never persuaded, and never baited any actions to you both. The only time I even had a gun out was on safety. I was simply saying statements of my own actions. I never agreed to mug with you guys if that was your assumption.

Please tell me how I am instigating and metagaming? You claim both but never mentioned WHAT the instigating or the metagaming part is.

(09-01-2023, 12:44 PM)Viva Wrote: You pulled a gun on your faction member on a alt and clearly threatened to kill him and pointed a gun at him (pulled a gun out) while saying ''fuck off scott or im gonna kill you'' that's some real convincing acting there m8. If thats not baiting idk what is. Only reason we performed a mug was we were 3v1 and had him heavily outnumbered as the information that you were a Scottish Don on a Gambino alt wasn't available to us. Just like how the information that we were instigating infront of the robbers den shouldn't have been available to you. How come you switched over to a alt , came over convieniently at the same time when we were talking shit to your faction members and you started jokingly telling them stuff like you said. If you claim you were not Metagaming , Yort , how did you have access to this information in the first place , do tell? Or did you just decide to switch to your alt just to bait us and get us PKED which is exactly what happened. I mean it's clear as day and you can keep denying it all you want. But the proof and the clips are all there of you instigating , pointing guns at scotts and what not. I aint really have much more to say on the matter but you can't sit here and pretend you did nothing wrong when you clearly did. Sure maybe this appeal won't work for us but at the very least you have to be punished for your bullshit. Let's not forget if you were not ''Metagaming'' how does your faction know not to shoot you when you point guns at them? How did they know it was you? Well i will tell you why because this was all communicated and planned in discord and you know it. If this type of shit is allowed we all might aswell start hopping on alt characters and instigating other people to start altercations or muggins between eachother and all will be well. So much for cracking down on Metagaming i suppose.


Just gonna post what i said before on the other thread. Don't see how anyone doesn't see the issue , and how the clear baiting and metagaming is being ignored. But i made 1 comment on discord and im the Metagamer? Excuse me what?

Also i don't see how im disregarding my life when it was self defence considering they started shooting at me.

Guess we can all start hopping on alt accounts and try starting shit guys its all good as you can see as there are no reprecussions. Hey my polish bakery is getting attacked lemme hop onto my ALT CHARACTER and metagame that information and go straight to it and blast 10 guys thats cool

There is a literal SA who saw the clip where he was pointing a gun at his own guys and said thats fucked btw. Idk how u are not seeing the blatant bullshit. By the way during this whole interaction with the scotts there was no radio comms or anything like that yet more Scotts kept coming to the place. So you trynna tell me they weren't on discord communicating the whole thing? How did Yort conviently know when to hop on his character? Metagaming is all over the server boys but im somehow the only one to be blamed here.

Even if im in the wrong here and this appeal doesn't get accepted why are we ignoring all the rules that u guys try to enforce that he is breaking? Why is no one looking to punish him? Thats whats mindblowing to me.

Yes u can have alt characters , but tell me which GAMBINO is gonna act like this , Instigating the scotts and talking shit to them? Pointing guns at them? saying he will kill them? What part of that makes sense roleplay wise please tell me?
Make it make sense.

This just feels extremely bias to me just because we initiated a mugging.

(09-01-2023, 01:24 PM)yort Wrote:

(09-01-2023, 12:44 PM)Viva Wrote: You pulled a gun on your faction member on a alt and clearly threatened to kill him and pointed a gun at him (pulled a gun out) while saying ''fuck off scott or im gonna kill you'' that's some real convincing acting there m8. If thats not baiting idk what is. Only reason we performed a mug was we were 3v1 and had him heavily outnumbered as the information that you were a Scottish Don on a Gambino alt wasn't available to us. Just like how the information that we were instigating infront of the robbers den shouldn't have been available to you. How come you switched over to a alt , came over convieniently at the same time when we were talking shit to your faction members and you started jokingly telling them stuff like you said. If you claim you were not Metagaming , Yort , how did you have access to this information in the first place , do tell? Or did you just decide to switch to your alt just to bait us and get us PKED which is exactly what happened. I mean it's clear as day and you can keep denying it all you want. But the proof and the clips are all there of you instigating , pointing guns at scotts and what not. I aint really have much more to say on the matter but you can't sit here and pretend you did nothing wrong when you clearly did. Sure maybe this appeal won't work for us but at the very least you have to be punished for your bullshit. Let's not forget if you were not ''Metagaming'' how does your faction know not to shoot you when you point guns at them? How did they know it was you? Well i will tell you why because this was all communicated and planned in discord and you know it. If this type of shit is allowed we all might aswell start hopping on alt characters and instigating other people to start altercations or muggins between eachother and all will be well. So much for cracking down on Metagaming i suppose.


Just gonna post what i said before on the other thread. Don't see how anyone doesn't see the issue , and how the clear baiting and metagaming is being ignored. But i made 1 comment on discord and im the Metagamer? Excuse me what?

Also i don't see how im disregarding my life when it was self defence considering they started shooting at me.

Guess we can all start hopping on alt accounts and try starting shit guys its all good as you can see as there are no reprecussions. Hey my polish bakery is getting attacked lemme hop onto my ALT CHARACTER and metagame that information and go straight to it and blast 10 guys thats cool

There is a literal SA who saw the clip where he was pointing a gun at his own guys and said thats fucked btw. Idk how u are not seeing the blatant bullshit. By the way during this whole interaction with the scotts there was no radio comms or anything like that yet more Scotts kept coming to the place. So you trynna tell me they weren't on discord communicating the whole thing? How did Yort conviently know when to hop on his character? Metagaming is all over the server boys but im somehow the only one to be blamed here.

Even if im in the wrong here and this appeal doesn't get accepted why are we ignoring all the rules that u guys try to enforce that he is breaking? Why is no one looking to punish him? Thats whats mindblowing to me.

Yes u can have alt characters , but tell me which GAMBINO is gonna act like this , Instigating the scotts and talking shit to them? Pointing guns at them? saying he will kill them? What part of that makes sense roleplay wise please tell me?
Make it make sense.

This just feels extremely bias to me just because we initiated a mugging.

Stop saying I am pointing my gun! It was on safety! The clips show it silly! Perhaps I pulled my gun out on safety after the fact you took a gun out first, maybe the realization of you taking your gun out could lead to me taking my gun out? If one person takes a gun out on safety, surely they will intend to use it right? That's why I pulled out my gun on safety to intend to use it if the other person intends to use it, in which they did!

As said before, I connected to the server and then chose my Gambino alt. I wasn't on any other character prior to when I connected. I am fairly active on my Gambino alt so this wasn't a random character to "instigate". I'm sure logs show this.

"Also i don't see how im disregarding my life when it was self defense considering they started shooting at me." You both agreed to mug! You said it!!! "because we initiated a mugging"

"Yes u can have alt characters , but tell me which GAMBINO is gonna act like this , Instigating the scotts and talking shit to them? Pointing guns at them? saying he will kill them? What part of that makes sense roleplay wise please tell me?" Any person in any faction can choose to dislike something or someone; anyone in any faction can act like anything. The Polish hates scots and keep instigating? Oh, there is one Polish who does like the scots and isn't instigating? But he's polish, he has to hate the scots and instigate! This argument is dumb.