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Ban Appeal - Vito Scalletti - 02-16-2021

Your Name: Mario Alfonso

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): STEAM_0:1:181377435

Reason for ban: RDM

Length of ban: 2 Days

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): I was banned as I have prior RDM warnings despite being ill informed of the corruption rules in PD, I made an appeal in the past that I would get my Police char banned to have my ban time reduced, this was used again me when the admin (Rem) checked my warnings, I had a MRDM ban from my police char and a few RDM warnings, I have recently looked over the rules and have a good understanding of them, I was banned based of a 30 second medal clip that shows nothing but the suspect being shot by myself, moments before the suspect shot me, leading up to him being shot I gave him plenty of commands to "Stop", "Don't move", "Face away" "Walk backwards" all of which he ignored by moving around constanly, facing me and not paying attention, he breaks fearRP by not listening to commands at gunpoint and moments before this his associates were shooting heavy firearms at my patrol can and myself, I returned fire and upon finding the suspect after he fled and I got away, I was the only officer on, out numbered in a foreign area with suspects inside different apartment rooms, this was entirely IC and I shot the suspect as he was known to have firearms with intent to use them against police on his person, He broke fearRP and therefor agitated myself, a lonely NYPD officer that is shooken up by getting shot at with a high level of adrenaline, the suspect is told to face away very clearly and then decides to face toward me, The suspect didn't listen to my commands and was shot. Maybe I should have been taken to an admin sit or informed that I had been reported so that I could actually defend myself against the accusation instead of banning myself based on one side of the story, every story has two sides and the suspect has cut the video to exactly what he wants you to see. He and his associates were firing at my vehicle prior to this event and therefor I was on my toes, he failed to listen to numerous commands and turned at me suddenly whilst under gunpoint, if admins were actually active they could have voided the situation due to fearRP entirely but even after multiple pleads over the last week, they fail to remain active on the server when we need them. I have had my prior warnings and bans used against me despite making it obvious I didn't know the rules back then, I made a deal with Canadian and have since read the rules, this was entirely IC and was not RDM, it had a reason behind it and that being that the suspect had just shot a civillian and then opened fired on me as I was patrolling and witnessed them murder the civillian, All morning the suspects were 4 manned up in a green rolls royce and constantly caused firearms situations, therefor the officers dealing with the situation that followed these events were also on their toes, we were assaulted and shot at over and over. That's why I shot him, because he was commanded not to move and he failed to do so. This happens in real life all the time, For example, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mesa-police-shooting-daniel-shaver-seen-crawling-begging-in-disturbing-video/ This suspect is shot due to him failing to listen to commands after the police assesed a significant threat to life, I was shot at and assesed the same threat, the suspect was shot in the centre mass where I am trained to fire if I feel threatened by a suspects presence with reasonable threat to life, that suspect shot me with an automatic firearm and therefor he was shot when he turned andfaced me suddenly, breaking fearRP and failing to abide by commands.

Why should you be unbanned? I had full IC reason to shoot the uncooperative, murderer that suddenly faced me after being commanded to face away, I was in a foreign area in which I do not recognise as It is private property that I have never ventured, the suspects that joined him were within the motel complex and therefor I was on edge and full with adrenaline, my heart IRL was literally thumping and you can hear the distress in my voice, he didn't listen to commands, was armed and a murderer that shot at myself, a lone NYPD officer that was on edge and had a gun trained on a homicidal non-cooperative suspect. Therefor he was shot, it is also been to reported as a known gang area and has a warrant pending on it.

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RE: Ban Appeal - Rem - 02-16-2021

You're trying to cover RDM with IRL problems. You're trigger happy and don't know how to properly play as an officer. 
https://medal.tv/clips/44176775/d1337Zdc40pc
https://medal.tv/clips/44179018/d1337T3SLS3X
[The second one is a bit more "valid", but you did not give an attempt to give a proper police chase or anything. Just pull out the gun and kill]
Your intentions are clear and covering up your RDMs is quite saddening.
Let me remind you, you have in total, 4 RDM warnings now, 3 bans [each involving RDM],and a MassRDM ban
This is not corruption. You need to give a proper effort to arrest people instead of resorting to killing them.


RE: Ban Appeal - Vito Scalletti - 02-16-2021

(02-16-2021, 04:30 PM)Rem Wrote: You're trying to cover RDM with IRL problems. You're trigger happy and don't know how to properly play as an officer. 
https://medal.tv/clips/44176775/d1337Zdc40pc
https://medal.tv/clips/44179018/d1337T3SLS3X
[The second one is a bit more "valid", but you did not give an attempt to give a proper police chase or anything. Just pull out the gun and kill]
Your intentions are clear and covering up your RDMs is quite saddening.
Let me remind you, you have in total, 4 RDM warnings now, 3 bans [each involving RDM],and a MassRDM ban
This is not corruption. You need to give a proper effort to arrest people instead of resorting to killing them.
You literally just showed a clip of a suspect intentionally trying to hit me with a vehicle to kill me, you think this needs a warning to shoot. This is active terrorism, the suspect tried to hit 5 people with a vehicle. And I'm bringing IRL and RP together to plead my case because that's the point of an RP server, to be realistic, this is the 80's. In modern times if you fail to listen to commands and know they are armed and posses threat to life, they are shot and it's justified and they are untouched, this server should be as realistic as possible. Never mind that this is the 80's. Why do staff have to neutralize every situation without even thinking that it is a RP situation. It's not RDM, it's justified and if you asked any cop IRL, they would do the same, I was under heavy adrenaline and in a foreign area that I do not recognise with know gangland priors, warrants and his associates armed inside. I had full reason to shoot him, not to mention he broke FearRP and failed to listen to my commands.


RE: Ban Appeal - Rem - 02-16-2021

I said the 2nd clip is a bit more valid. I didn't ban you for that clip, nor add any extra punishment. But again, no effort to properly arrest him.
"Abuse of Power/Guns/Arrests will result in removal from your job and possibly a ban."
"Being Corrupt does NOT mean you are doing criminal acts, that means working on the inside of the PD with criminal factions. You cannot just openly commit crimes on that police character. If you want to be a criminal, make a criminal character. As soon as you put yourself in a corrupt situation it is possible to be PK'ed."


RE: Ban Appeal - Vito Scalletti - 02-16-2021

(02-16-2021, 04:41 PM)Rem Wrote: I said the 2nd clip is a bit more valid. I didn't ban you for that clip, nor add any extra punishment. But again, no effort to properly arrest him.
"Abuse of Power/Guns/Arrests will result in removal from your job and possibly a ban."
"Being Corrupt does NOT mean you are doing criminal acts, that means working on the inside of the PD with criminal factions. You cannot just openly commit crimes on that police character. If you want to be a criminal, make a criminal character. As soon as you put yourself in a corrupt situation it is possible to be PK'ed."
You are missing the point, this is totally valid, he turns rapidly on me after being told to face away. I shot him, like any IRL cop would. There's plenty of videos online of them doing it and later investigation leads to them being let off without punishment. this is a SERIOUS mafia RP server and I reacted REALISTICALLY. Your opinion doesn't mean your correct, which is why I'm appealing it. I lost my job because you disagreed. I got banned because you disagreed, despite all the evidence I showed you, I reacted how I felt was correct, this was an IC thing that you called "RDM" because you are refusing to listen to what I'm saying.

Rem, please look at from my side of things, you need to see it through my eyes, he shot me and suddenly looked at me, after being told to face away, with a weapon he shot at me with. He was visibly unarmed but I shot him because he didn't listen under the currently circumstances of him being a threat to life. You are seeing this as an admin, I get that, you sympathise with the suspect as you see why he disagrees with my actions, but if you look at it through my eyes, the suspect is armed, he shot me with the intention to kill me, he then fled and upon me catching up with him is put under gunpoint, fails to listen to commands and suddenly looks at me. My heart IRL was literally pounding, I had a shit tonne of adrenaline and he moved after being told to face away, He is seen to fail to listen to commands, what would stop him from pulling a gun at that point. Forgetting FearRP for a moment, if that suspect has no fear in ignoring me to tell him to face away, what would stop that same suspect from pulling a gun, which I knew he had because he shot me prior to this. Please think of it through my eyes. If you really cannot see my side of things and see that many others view the same point of view, I had no time to think about it, You have to understand that right now, we all have time to think about what we want to do, when to do it.. but in the moment, the suspect isn't listening and I display distress in my voice on the video, I'm hiding my body as best as I can, I can't change my gun as it may give the suspect an oppertunity to shoot me. I shot because he didn't listen, he turned suddenly and I shot suddenly, I didn't leave the station wanting to kill someone, RDM is the intentionally killing of someone for no reason. I'm trying to show you my opinion. I just want you to see that I didn't have the luxury of time during the incident. I reacted how it is shown in the video. I have tried to show you why I did it but it doesn't seem like you want to listen. I apologise.


RE: Ban Appeal - Taboose - 02-16-2021

+1 guy broke fearrp we saw the clip lol. If you are going to ban him pk the guy who broke fearrp


RE: Ban Appeal - Rem - 02-19-2021

Expired. Closing.