switch to rp_nycity

[BasedGuy22]

I would like to suggest that the server's map be switched to a map called nycity_rp. Now before you guys lash out at me, I ask that you keep an open mind for a moment. I've been playing on this server for a while now, and I think it's time for a change. We've been running around on the same old map for years, and I think it's safe to say that everyone's getting a little bored. But no one wants to admit it lol. This is our chance to expand into something bigger and way more immersive and enjoyable. I strongly believe that the new nyc map would offer endless possibilities for roleplay and significantly increase the overall enjoyment of the server. One of the main reasons why rp_nycity rp is so awesome and great is its size. This map is really huge, its actually 3x bigger than southside in terms of space and it has 3x the amount of enterable buildings and stores (More on that later). It also has the same aesthetic of southside that we all love (Not surprising since both maps were made by the same person). nycity_rp is just objectively better than southside in all aspects and I see no reason why we shouldn't switch to it. It's significantly larger, offering a vast and immersive environment for players to explore and interact with. Furthermore, nycity_rp is an incredibly detailed map and has more depth than southside (Not in terms of graphics, I'm talking about map design), which also makes it even more immersive and realistic. This level of detail provides an excellent backdrop for roleplay, allowing players to fully immerse themselves in the server.

Now as I said before, nycity_rp has a multitude of enterable buildings, which allows for even more creative and diverse roleplay scenarios. Not only that, it also has new types of buildings and concepts never seen before in either union city or southside (like for example, an FBI building, huge palace/mansion, chinatown, construction site, etc). 

Some pics of the map on imgur: https://imgur.com/a/g2RkJpj

To conclude everything I said above:
I strongly believe that switching to rp_nycity would be an excellent decision for the server. It would provide a fresh and exciting experience for players, increase engagement, and offer countless opportunities for immersive and creative roleplay. nycity_rp is the perfect map for mafia rp. It's way bigger than our current map, with tons of enterable buildings to explore. Plus, it's incredibly detailed and realistic, which will make roleplay even more immersive and enjoyable.

So what do you say? Let's shake things up and give rp_nycity a try. I guarantee that everyone will love it. 

Video of someone exploring the map: https://youtu.be/kw9lfThoGRo?t=307 
Steam workshop: Steam Workshop::RP_NYCity (steamcommunity.com)

[Pendred]

Too big, inferior to SouthSide in every way.

[Canadian-bacon]

Hello BasedGuy22,

Here is the response I wrote up to other community members when this was last brought up:

I'll just list it here.

There was no guarantee we would switch to this map. It was just something we followed on the sidelines as we are all fans of fishke's previous maps. However looking at this one we can easily conclude that it does not fit with the gameplay on diverge.

The map is too large. It is literally 3 times the size of southside and is split into TWO big cities. The entire point of mafia rp is to have player to player interaction and moving to a map three times the size reduces the amount of people you run into overall. There's areas on southside that go unsed when we max 128/128 now, if we switched to this map 70-80% of the space would be unused. This obviously is horrible for basic gameplay loops, traveling (wtihout cars), meeting people and new users who join for the first time would have a horrible experience.

As of right now there is very literally zero reason to switch off southside, a perfectly good map that is sized right for the amount of funneled interaction you get. It's also just generally more detailed and dense, with roof top access and an elaborate server system this new map doesnt have. NYCity map feels very blocky and almost rushed as if the labour of love didnt translate to such a massive scale. (Not saying it's low quality by any means. fishke is an amazing mapper but it simply FEELS less detailed because there's so much more surface area to cover)

I understand people like it right now but you fail to see what we see, the overall health of the server, community and gamemode. You're likely very tunnel visioned on the shiny new thing and that's normal. But as of now nothing has to change and nothing will change. It'll just cause problems that arent needed.