PK Appeal Santino "Sonny" Caleno

[Nevronas1]

Name of Character: Santino "Sonny" Caleno

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:227839162

Date of PK: 1/25/2021

Reason for PK: Being killed during a bank robbery

Why should you be unPK'd?: Initially we were waiting for Sudo to get online so we could discuss with him the rules and regulations when it came to robbing the bank however considering he is in a different timezone we had to wait quite a while so we ended up inviting Ayo to at least get a general idea on what the event would be like. Ayo seemed to be pretty well informed around the rules of robbing the bank and even provided us with the rules of the robbery. To my knowledge Ayo had checked and had informed us that there was around 500k within the banks vault. Of course the bank robbery ended up going wrong however we still make it out with around 50 percent of the money according to Canadian Bacon however we later found that 50 percent turned out to be only 15k. When we asked about this we were told by Canadian that the bank held 30k instead of the initial 500k and in our defense nobody in their right mind would rob a bank for less money than a car costs.

[Rogue]

+1 

I was in the group chat when the heist was being planned and I can attest that we were told that at the max the bank held around 500k.

[Canadian-bacon]

I believe the bit with ayo was miscommunication but he can comment on that himself later, regardless of the amount of money inside the bank robbing the Bank and dying is still a PK. You made the active and conscious decision to continue the robbery even after the alarms were tripped early. Those involved had every opportunity to leave the bank before the Police arrived when the alarms were first tripped. The money was physically in the vault itself and was about 70 to 80K. The only reason 30K came out is because that is how much the surviving member of the robbery physically grabbed from the vault.

Whether there was 500K or 100K is irrelevant since the entire idea of a bank robbery is not a DarkRP grind for cash. It's supposed to be an RP heavy event, if no one RP'ed scoping the joint out, trying to figure out how big the score was, if there were guards, if the cops were nearby, etc is irrelevant to us. If you're telling me your decision was based around a randomly tossed around figure in an OOC discord call that caused your RP character to make a decision with meta information he didn't have ingame then I really don't see how it's anyone's fault but your own.

Similar discussion in this thread: https://divergenetworks.com/forums/showt...hp?tid=597

[Nevronas1]

I believe the bit with ayo was miscommunication but he can comment on that himself later, regardless of the amount of money inside the bank robbing the Bank and dying is still a PK. You made the active and conscious decision to continue the robbery even after the alarms were tripped early. Those involved had every opportunity to leave the bank before the Police arrived when the alarms were first tripped. The money was physically in the vault itself and was about 70 to 80K. The only reason 30K came out is because that is how much the surviving member of the robbery physically grabbed from the vault.

Whether there was 500K or 100K is irrelevant since the entire idea of a bank robbery is not a DarkRP grind for cash. It's supposed to be an RP heavy event, if no one RP'ed scoping the joint out, trying to figure out how big the score was, if there were guards, if the cops were nearby, etc is irrelevant to us. If you're telling me your decision was based around a randomly tossed around figure in an OOC discord call that caused your RP character to make a decision with meta information he didn't have ingame then I really don't see how it's anyone's fault but your own.

Similar discussion in this thread: https://divergenetworks.com/forums/showt...hp?tid=597

What you don't understand, is that 80k and splitting that between guys is pocket money, we would have never thought in the first place to rob the bank if it was 80k total. On top of that we took 2 days to plan this so don't call it DarkRP, we were misinformed so it doesn't even matter what happened in the first place we were misinformed and that has nothing to do with us.

[Rem]

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.

After reviewing the information and the situation, in the end everybody would have died either way. If the possible amount was 1 million, but the true outcome would have been 100k since only 1 person made it out. When doing the bank robbery, you are told and it's known that you become PK active. You should have been sure what you wanted.

We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.

You may not re-appeal this PK.