PK Appeal

[Marcus Grey]

Name of Character: Julius Armani

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:57167772

Your Discord ID#: RzVibration#3373

Date of PK: 09/05/23

Reason for PK: Mug

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?: I was killed because I mugged someone and they could allegedly recognise me even though the recognition timer had lapsed. I had changed my clothes and description as well, and was not using my mic leading up to the PK - although this shouldn't have mattered anyway since the timer was over. I asked the admin afterwards about it, however he stated that he had given the player extra time to recognise me, because he made a sit rather than just retroactively getting us PK'd, which is not something I knew to be possible or allowed. In this situation I would have understood if a PK had been done within the valid time limit however this was not the case.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: N/A

[James]

I was the person who approved the PK on your and your friends, the mugging that you did wasn't finished until XX:19, he found two of you at XX:37 then followed you for 2 ish mins and shot you two you just as the clock hit XX:39, while talking with a member of UA in Staff VC i asked if it was fine as it had just hit 20 mins when he killed you and factoring in for the sit taking a bit longer than it should have to find all 3 of you and the fact that the recognition limit is 20 mins (which can be done by voice and I can confirm that he heard you speak) I didn't see why it wasn't fair. I didn't allow them to go for a PK on your third friend as by that point it was way over the 20 mins.

[Marcus Grey]

Thanks for the quick response, we thought the timer was 15 minutes, but must have changed, sorry about that - although I still don't know why you would tell us that you extended the time. For future reference, can upper staff confirm if this would be okay for staff to do without notifying us?

We looked at our evidence, and we can confirm the timings were right, we just thought it had been longer. However, I never used my voice in the 2-ish minutes leading up to my PK. My friend did, and he accepts his PK, but the last time I spoke was a few minutes prior to 2 people in gateway tire, and our video evidence shows that he wasn't in a vicinity where he would have heard me speak. Can you confirm when he heard me use my mic in-game?

[Canadian-bacon]

As James stated he recognized you within the time, the extension was likely a miscommunication in regards to the time between the person spotting you and then killing you.

[Canadian-bacon]

Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.

You may not re-appeal this PK.