Moshe Lansky ban apeal

**maudicus** · 02-05-2023, 06:25 PM

Making this for someone who does not have a forums account

Your Name: MOSHE LANSKY

Your SteamID:76561198114981141

Your Discord ID#: 374629486370619433

Reason for ban: RDM x 3 and PO x 1

Length of ban: 3 days

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology):dispute

Why should you be unbanned?
I acted in defence of another. Ealier in the day my friend stopped a fight between two random people. They then came back later to Le Grande where the fight happened. They shouted from the door "Get that dude with the santa hat over here." Then the men approached my friend who was sitting down at a table and threatened to beat him if he did not stand up. By the way they surrounded him and threatened I could tell it was going to go badly. So I shot them defending my friend from what I believed they were going to do to him.

Additional Information (images, videos, etc): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...NzYyMDc0LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIbyB6Tv35U

**Marzii** · (This post was last modified: 02-05-2023, 06:39 PM by Marzii.)

I was the one who banned you're friend. 3 dudes come into Le Grande to talk to someone they were having issues with, they come into Le Grande asking for the dude to stand up so they can talk to him, you're friend came up and shot and killed 2 of them and once the 3rd guy saw that you're friend shot and killed his friends, he pulled out his weapon to try to kill him but you're friend killed him as well. The 3 guys showed no signs of threats or didn't pull out a weapon as you're friend stated in the sit

Here is the clip of the situation https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...I4NzQzMDMs

Only "threat" they could've made was telling the guy to stand up before they hit him but the dude stood up

**maudicus** · 02-05-2023, 06:39 PM

From the one in blue "stand up before we hit yo ass" So if you want to find that part it was in the second clip 43 seconds in. Is that not aggressive threatening or hostile ?

**Marzii** · 02-05-2023, 06:41 PM

You're friend could've told them to leave but he never did instead he chose to shoot them

**maudicus** · 02-05-2023, 06:44 PM

Yes however he could of got shot in the process because let me remind you they had guns and were hostile towards him before. So its a lose lose scenario.

**Marzii** · (This post was last modified: 02-05-2023, 06:54 PM by Marzii.)

You're friend had no issue with them telling him to "stand up before we hit yo ass" or else he would've pulled out his weapon before hand, you're friend didn't pull out his weapon until the black dude stood up.

There was no warnings to leave or anything, they were talking to the black dude and he killed them

Also ur friend wasn't even in the same faction as the dude so unless they were friends and he had his f3 then ur friend walked in there and heard " stand up before i hit yo ass" and killed 3 guys

**ZOOMER** · (This post was last modified: 02-05-2023, 07:01 PM by ZOOMER.)

Hello, verbal threats like what is shown in the video are considered idle threats. Reacting to idle threats with lethal force is considered as RDM.

For full context regarding verbal threats and its classifications, feel free to check the server rules page.

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