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09-01-2023, 09:28 AM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2023, 09:34 AM by Monte. Edited 4 times in total.)
Name of Character: Monte Pruszkowska

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:59491439

Your Discord ID#: monte.0

Date of PK: 9/1/2023

Reason for PK: FearRP 

Why should you be unPK'd? What server rule or PK rule was violated?:
Metagaming
Using OOC means of communication to perform a PK will invalidate it / the evidence for a PK.

Using OOC terms over Mic, (Such as yelling "thats a pk, thats a pk!" After killing someone) may void the PK entirely. Remain in character at all times.
Very obvious PK bait, was on an ult char and provoked action to be taken against his own faction in order to initiate a PK scenario so he could kill us, we had no idea it was a HC of the faction we had beef with.  Seems meta to me.

Not to mention the party that killed us was pretending to be with us, baiting the PK and shot us in the back.

If possible please provide video evidence or photo evidence if PK does not follow the guidelines: https://imgur.com/a/aPuTybE
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09-01-2023, 09:44 AM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2023, 09:46 AM by RIPLUNNA. Edited 1 time in total.)
Yort was on his character chilling and jokingly talking shit about the scots, he wasn't intentionally doing anything. The image you provided simply just shows logs of him talking shit about scots and wanting to kill scots, he wasn't persuading or baiting anyone in anyway to do anything; all Yort said is that he wanted to harm Scots on that character, especially when he says that HE (Yort) wants to PK and mug the scots. YOUR actions surprised all of us, a Capo deciding to mug? Who would risk that? What went through the thought process of risking your high ranking character by mugging in the first place? Your PK could of been EASILY avoided without YOUR actions. It wasn't a PK bait, I didn't have a gun out, nothing to be deemed as a threat, and nothing of Yort. It was YOUR call, YOUR intention, YOUR choice to pull a gun out and initiate a mug. That is YOUR fault. YOU made the mistake and made the judgement to mug, now YOU receive the consequence.

Video: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...OTQ4ODM2LA
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09-01-2023, 09:52 AM
this is the funniest pk appeal i’ve ever seen i’ve never seen someone cope this hard in my entire life
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09-01-2023, 10:19 AM
(09-01-2023, 09:44 AM)RIPLUNNA Wrote: Yort was on his character chilling and jokingly talking shit about the scots, he wasn't intentionally doing anything. The image you provided simply just shows logs of him talking shit about scots and wanting to kill scots, he wasn't persuading or baiting anyone in anyway to do anything; all Yort said is that he wanted to harm Scots on that character, especially when he says that HE (Yort) wants to PK and mug the scots. YOUR actions surprised all of us, a Capo deciding to mug? Who would risk that? What went through the thought process of risking your high ranking character by mugging in the first place? Your PK could of been EASILY avoided without YOUR actions. It wasn't a PK bait, I didn't have a gun out, nothing to be deemed as a threat, and nothing of Yort. It was YOUR call, YOUR intention, YOUR choice to pull a gun out and initiate a mug. That is YOUR fault. YOU made the mistake and made the judgement to mug, now YOU receive the consequence.

Video: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...OTQ4ODM2LA
you forgot the part where he pulled a gun on you and decided to threaten you by saying he will kill you , But yeah it was ''jokingly'' no worries i have the clips , and i posted em on my appeal
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09-01-2023, 10:55 AM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2023, 11:17 AM by yort. Edited 2 times in total.)
Hello sir, all I did was talk shit about my own faction jokingly. At the end of the day, YOU and VIVA initiated the mug. I didn't persuade you or even tell you nothing to do. All I said was upon my own intentions of committing my own actions, hence all the "I"s, I said in all my messages. It is your choice to initiate the mug, why would you mug in the first place as a high-ranking member? You are putting yourself at risk.

Also, you are metagaming in this clip: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...NzE3ODM2LA

Discord:
"Can we just mug this guy?"
"Should we do it?"
"Let's mug this nigga, bro"

Holy Gee Wizzy Dizz! You both agreed in Discord for assurance of wanting to mug a guy?!?! You both agreed and were willing to mug someone prior to the mug!!! premeditated muggign!!! And you concluded that I am the one baiting you to mug when you both agreed to in your little vc of yours!?!?

Here is a snippet of the discord talk in the clip, in case anything gets deleted! tsk tsk
https://streamable.com/a22waw
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09-01-2023, 12:05 PM
Pking admin here.

Okay, so from my perspective and the reason that I went ahead with the PK was because regardless of the circumstances before the PK, both yourself and Zlatko showed clear disregard for your own life. I'm not sure if the image really has the full weight of what you are suggesting, especially considering the post above in which you are clearly heard in a discord call together.

Even if someone is interacting with you on a different character, doesn't outright mean they are metagaming or PK baiting. The person was simply calling you guys names, you could of escalated the violence without attempting to mug the individuals.

You initiated a mugging RP, when you didn't need to - which shows disregard for your life, and it appears you used discord to initiate it, also.
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09-01-2023, 12:06 PM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2023, 12:09 PM by Viva. Edited 2 times in total.)
(09-01-2023, 10:55 AM)yort Wrote: Hello sir, all I did was talk shit about my own faction jokingly. At the end of the day, YOU and VIVA initiated the mug. I didn't persuade you or even tell you nothing to do. All I said was upon my own intentions of committing my own actions, hence all the "I"s, I said in all my messages. It is your choice to initiate the mug, why would you mug in the first place as a high-ranking member? You are putting yourself at risk.

Also, you are metagaming in this clip: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...NzE3ODM2LA

Discord:
"Can we just mug this guy?"
"Should we do it?"
"Let's mug this nigga, bro"

Holy Gee Wizzy Dizz! You both agreed in Discord for assurance of wanting to mug a guy?!?! You both agreed and were willing to mug someone prior to the mug!!! premeditated muggign!!! And you concluded that I am the one baiting you to mug when you both agreed to in your little vc of yours!?!?

Here is a snippet of the discord talk in the clip, in case anything gets deleted! tsk tsk
https://streamable.com/a22waw
You pulled a gun on your faction member on a alt and clearly threatened to kill him and pointed a gun at him (pulled a gun out) while saying ''fuck off scott or im gonna kill you'' that's some real convincing acting there m8. If thats not baiting idk what is. Only reason we performed a mug was we were 3v1 and had him heavily outnumbered as the information that you were a Scottish Don on a Gambino alt wasn't available to us. Just like how the information that we were instigating infront of the robbers den shouldn't have been available to you. How come you switched over to a alt , came over convieniently at the same time when we were talking shit to your faction members and you started jokingly telling them stuff like you said. If you claim you were not Metagaming , Yort , how did you have access to this information in the first place , do tell? Or did you just decide to switch to your alt just to bait us and get us PKED which is exactly what happened. I mean it's clear as day and you can keep denying it all you want. But the proof and the clips are all there of you instigating , pointing guns at scotts and what not. I aint really have much more to say on the matter but you can't sit here and pretend you did nothing wrong when you clearly did. Sure maybe this appeal won't work for us but at the very least you have to be punished for your bullshit. Let's not forget if you were not ''Metagaming'' how does your faction know not to shoot you when you point guns at them? How did they know it was you? Well i will tell you why because this was all communicated and planned in discord and you know it. If this type of shit is allowed we all might aswell start hopping on alt characters and instigating other people to start altercations or muggins between eachother and all will be well. So much for cracking down on Metagaming i suppose.
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09-01-2023, 12:59 PM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2023, 01:00 PM by yort. Edited 1 time in total.)
(09-01-2023, 12:06 PM)Viva Wrote:
(09-01-2023, 10:55 AM)yort Wrote: Hello sir, all I did was talk shit about my own faction jokingly. At the end of the day, YOU and VIVA initiated the mug. I didn't persuade you or even tell you nothing to do. All I said was upon my own intentions of committing my own actions, hence all the "I"s, I said in all my messages. It is your choice to initiate the mug, why would you mug in the first place as a high-ranking member? You are putting yourself at risk.

Also, you are metagaming in this clip: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...NzE3ODM2LA

Discord:
"Can we just mug this guy?"
"Should we do it?"
"Let's mug this nigga, bro"

Holy Gee Wizzy Dizz! You both agreed in Discord for assurance of wanting to mug a guy?!?! You both agreed and were willing to mug someone prior to the mug!!! premeditated muggign!!! And you concluded that I am the one baiting you to mug when you both agreed to in your little vc of yours!?!?

Here is a snippet of the discord talk in the clip, in case anything gets deleted! tsk tsk
https://streamable.com/a22waw
You pulled a gun on your faction member on a alt and clearly threatened to kill him and pointed a gun at him (pulled a gun out) while saying ''fuck off scott or im gonna kill you'' that's some real convincing acting there m8. If thats not baiting idk what is. Only reason we performed a mug was we were 3v1 and had him heavily outnumbered as the information that you were a Scottish Don on a Gambino alt wasn't available to us. Just like how the information that we were instigating infront of the robbers den shouldn't have been available to you. How come you switched over to a alt , came over convieniently at the same time when we were talking shit to your faction members and you started jokingly telling them stuff like you said. If you claim you were not Metagaming , Yort , how did you have access to this information in the first place , do tell? Or did you just decide to switch to your alt just to bait us and get us PKED which is exactly what happened. I mean it's clear as day and you can keep denying it all you want. But the proof and the clips are all there of you instigating , pointing guns at scotts and what not. I aint really have much more to say on the matter but you can't sit here and pretend you did nothing wrong when you clearly did. Sure maybe this appeal won't work for us but at the very least you have to be punished for your bullshit. Let's not forget if you were not ''Metagaming'' how does your faction know not to shoot you when you point guns at them? How did they know it was you? Well i will tell you why because this was all communicated and planned in discord and you know it. If this type of shit is allowed we all might aswell start hopping on alt characters and instigating other people to start altercations or muggins between eachother and all will be well. So much for cracking down on Metagaming i suppose.
With YOUR knowledge, I guess I am baiting my own faction member to kill me. How does that correlate to baiting you? You are not a scot! You are polish!

I connected to the server and then chose my Gambino alt. I wasn't on any other character prior to when I connected. I'm sure logs show this. There was no ill intention or premeditation you both falsely claim of. I was surprised that you guys even decided to mug after the fact while you both are high-ranking faction members, it's just foolish.

You keep saying I pointed my gun at that scot!! My gun was on safety in those clips! You keep claiming me of metagaming with nothing to back it up! Stop falsely accusing!
I guess you both got bluetooth butt plugs to communicate with each other when you both suddenly walked away together after getting the same sudden thought to leave, surely it wasn't through discord again. https://streamable.com/ktr9w8

You say "If this type of shit is allowed we all might aswell start hopping on alt characters and instigating other people to start altercations or muggins between eachother and all will be well. So much for cracking down on Metagaming i suppose." You guys did this already! Surely, we didn't forget about the 5 polish alts that jumped one scot with the intention of instigating altercations on alts then those 5 polish alts proceeded to get 1v5d by said scot!!!!!

Stop denying the realization you lost the mugging scenario! It is clear that you and Polish have declared ill intent by resorting to OOC means. It is what it is.
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09-01-2023, 01:02 PM

You guys took the decisión of putting him under FearRP (Doing MG to coordinate) and still got killed. Textbook PK right there
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09-01-2023, 01:24 PM
After checking logs I can confirm that Yort didn't switch characters at any point, he was on his Italian character the entire time. That being said, I understand where you are coming from in regards to Yort giving out threats to the scottish guy and then killing you both in the mugging gone wrong, there is no bias here. I'm going off the evidence put in front of me, so give us some time and we will look at everything and figure it out.

But please bare in mind, that this only got violent because a mugging was initiated, which we have clear evidence was initiated by metagame.
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