Unjust Ban

[Garfielf]

The guy in question was a whiteshirt who would stroll around the map saying "Trick or Treat" and would then proceed to punch you in the legs if you said trick and demand money if you said Treat.

He punched Xosad in the legs once before and broke NLR returning before doing the exact same shit and punching him in the legs.

this happened several times. I was also with Xosad at the time and he left saying he was going off for the night and didn't mention anything about a sit apart from some minge was bothering him (and I did see this happen once) he has also done this to other players on the server multiple times. his behaviour was nothing short of minge bullshit and once he punched red he shot him. I feel the punishment for LTAP was a little too far and especially three days. it was midnight for him and he couldn't have knowingly broke the rule, especially because you attempted to pull him to a sit and THEN found out he wasn't on the server anymore.

if he was on the server and got pulled to a sit it'd be LTAP but instead you attempted to pull him and found he left the server. he literally couldn't have not broken the rule at the time. this feels fucking ridiculous. if he broke the rule of RDM you should have banned him for that. otherwise the guy who was making the sit should have taken it to the forums and it should have been left their.

this reeks of Jumping the gun with an extremly harsh ban.

also spend 30 hours talking to Jesus Christ of Nazereth if you want. you and Somespy both made a horrible judgement call here that reeks of putting the cart before the horse. you literally punished him for something he couldn't have knowingly done by him leaving before the sit was even called. it's ridiculous to punish him for that. but that's my opinion.

Does not matter if it was a minge, he killed someone and left which is LTARP, not LTAP. He even admitted to it. So, if you are saying this is a bad judgement thats your opinion

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One rule break does not justify another

He killed someone and left without any intention of doing so to avoid punishment or an admin sit, he killed someone who lied about him RDMing and you chucked him a three-day ban. it was an incredibly haphazard response where you Jumped the gun and punished him for something he couldn't have knowingly prevented unless he was a fucking mind reader. the audacity of you to claim he even broke this rule is absurd to me. for it to have been LTAP he would have absolutely needed to have the intention to avoid the punishment which he clearly demonstrated no intention of deliberately doing. 

my problem here is not "Minge did Bad so red doesn't deserve punishment" its that your incredibly incredulous handling of this situation has the potential to waste several days of someones time because you and somespy made an incredibly bad call and punished someone who had neither the intention to LTAP, or any solid evidence they committed the crime they were accused of. 

to use your ridiculous logic against you, I can claim someone RDM'd me. have no real evidence for it after they left. and then say "look LTAP" and get them banned for several days using the broken ass logic you've used here. which shows either a basic lack of basic reasoning skills or a complete disregard for if he actually deliberately broke the rule for the purpose LTAP is usually punished for. and instead, you decided to pad your ban list with a stupid ban, and then relaying on the fact you chatted up somespy as justification. this reeks of you not using basic reasoning skills and instead deferring to somespy as justification for a ban when in reality theirs no way to prove it was LTAP over then to assume it was deliberate which you both can't do, and we have evidence to the contrary. 

this ban's logic rests on fiberglass and eggshells and the most minimal of thought pulls it apart. I'm amazed it hasn't already been undone and you both need a quick chat to about the way you hand out punishments if this is the type of logic you apply to other areas of your admin Roles.