02-21-2022, 02:55 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2022, 02:56 AM by ayo. Edited 1 time in total.)
I am involved in this situation but before I lay down my part I kinda wanted to touch in this topic just a bit.
I mean I get really confused when I look at bans like these. A character, not even apart of a faction, facing an out of character consequence for something they did in character. Of course somethings done in character have their limits, FBI/State/Judicial corruption, abuse of vendor, alting, metagming and so forth, to preserve the roleplay standard. Looking at situations in 2020 where players could roleplay as a corrupt councilman hire a public defender (Gino Lombardi) to break them out of jail it'd all be something done through roleplay. No OOC issues created from it. But when you try to find something similar to that roleplay experience you don't really find it. Corrupt cops are either banned or blacklisted on evidence found OOCly, councilman/city gov can not do ANYTHING illegal... Its mafiaRP and players are getting OOCly punished for breaking the law on criminal characters. The players who complain about the roleplay standard, metagame, and other OOC things are typically the ones feeding the issue. In this instance you see a player complain to staff because of a character pretending to be FBI... Whats next? players reporting eachother for selling drug? In character is in character and bans like this are just O.0
My side was simple. I was in discord talking with Topshotta at the time and I was able to watch most of the situation. The roleplay held by all parties was horrible "failRP" was said what? 10 tens? more. Seemed like an admin sit if I wasn't watching the screen. What I saw was no violation of the rules... It was a /me of an FBI badge, a faction that no longer exists. Its clear an in character option was optional but some player for some reason wanted to make a report. What?
No clue. Just gonna tab out with my say that I saw no issues with what he did but also the fact that these bans are the reason people get scared to roleplay....
A player doing what they can to OOCly go at players for their IC actions is just weird. Sit was already dealt with, no clue why UA stepped in.
I mean I get really confused when I look at bans like these. A character, not even apart of a faction, facing an out of character consequence for something they did in character. Of course somethings done in character have their limits, FBI/State/Judicial corruption, abuse of vendor, alting, metagming and so forth, to preserve the roleplay standard. Looking at situations in 2020 where players could roleplay as a corrupt councilman hire a public defender (Gino Lombardi) to break them out of jail it'd all be something done through roleplay. No OOC issues created from it. But when you try to find something similar to that roleplay experience you don't really find it. Corrupt cops are either banned or blacklisted on evidence found OOCly, councilman/city gov can not do ANYTHING illegal... Its mafiaRP and players are getting OOCly punished for breaking the law on criminal characters. The players who complain about the roleplay standard, metagame, and other OOC things are typically the ones feeding the issue. In this instance you see a player complain to staff because of a character pretending to be FBI... Whats next? players reporting eachother for selling drug? In character is in character and bans like this are just O.0
My side was simple. I was in discord talking with Topshotta at the time and I was able to watch most of the situation. The roleplay held by all parties was horrible "failRP" was said what? 10 tens? more. Seemed like an admin sit if I wasn't watching the screen. What I saw was no violation of the rules... It was a /me of an FBI badge, a faction that no longer exists. Its clear an in character option was optional but some player for some reason wanted to make a report. What?
No clue. Just gonna tab out with my say that I saw no issues with what he did but also the fact that these bans are the reason people get scared to roleplay....
A player doing what they can to OOCly go at players for their IC actions is just weird. Sit was already dealt with, no clue why UA stepped in.
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