03-03-2022, 11:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2022, 11:39 PM by Canadian-bacon.)
Unfortunately the clip for the old PK appeal no longer exists, which I would have checked as reference in regards to your claims. However going on the replies in the thread and Touka's reply here I can defer that the original administrator had it retracted because he believed that the Police were at fault for being PK hungry (As pointed out by Romullus) and using OOC terms in IC, as well as the clip lacking initial context, Moses then retracted the PK after considering he no longer felt 110% certain you were at fault.
However looking that this PK I can be much more objective. The police were guarding a building and not initiating any confrontation. A crowd gathered to harass them, per usual, and during this encounter an individual used /fallover. Despite what we clearly hear as a warning/order from someone in the video: "Don't pick him up" you end up picking the unconscious person up and killing them, starting the confrontation, you are then tazed and as they attempt to detain you, you purposefully evade them, backing up and un-holstering a weapon.
Already from the point of perspective from the police, you initiated a violent confrontation, evaded detainment and just un-holstered a weapon directed at officers. They have every reason to believe you are a threat and open fire.
The idea that it is to 'strike fear' is unfortunately illogical because even if we did allow users to pull out weapons and not be pk'ed it would simply encourage users to pull weapons on cops and hold fire to bait them into firing first so they can get a free kill with no consequence, it would be a loophole on the violent confrontation rule to allow this.
I believe there is more than enough context here to PK you for starting the violent confrontation and killing someone. You're a regular and understand the ins and out of roleplay and mechanics. The circumstance between the last appeal and this one are much too different to compare, each PK situation is unique.
Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.
We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.
You may not re-appeal this PK.
However looking that this PK I can be much more objective. The police were guarding a building and not initiating any confrontation. A crowd gathered to harass them, per usual, and during this encounter an individual used /fallover. Despite what we clearly hear as a warning/order from someone in the video: "Don't pick him up" you end up picking the unconscious person up and killing them, starting the confrontation, you are then tazed and as they attempt to detain you, you purposefully evade them, backing up and un-holstering a weapon.
Already from the point of perspective from the police, you initiated a violent confrontation, evaded detainment and just un-holstered a weapon directed at officers. They have every reason to believe you are a threat and open fire.
The idea that it is to 'strike fear' is unfortunately illogical because even if we did allow users to pull out weapons and not be pk'ed it would simply encourage users to pull weapons on cops and hold fire to bait them into firing first so they can get a free kill with no consequence, it would be a loophole on the violent confrontation rule to allow this.
I believe there is more than enough context here to PK you for starting the violent confrontation and killing someone. You're a regular and understand the ins and out of roleplay and mechanics. The circumstance between the last appeal and this one are much too different to compare, each PK situation is unique.
Your appeal has been reviewed and denied.
We have determined this PK to be reasonable and/or justified.
You may not re-appeal this PK.
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