Player Report

[Lil Shadow]

Your Name: Lil Shadow




Offender(s) Name(s): Corporal Alex Deluca/Drainer




Offender(s) Steam/Player ID: 50853




Server this occurred on?: Only server



Time of Incident: 3/23/24 3pm PST




Rule(s) Violated: RDM 




Evidence (Videos/Screenshots): [color=var(--text-link)]https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/22LdJDuoZbLpRO/d1337M8VTLCa?invite=cr-MSxRVHksMTg3Mzk5NTM4LA , https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...NTY0Mjk4LA[/color]




Additional Information (Players/staff directly involved, etc):  

1. In regards to how a user is allowed to react to verbal threats.
   There are two types of threats, an 'Active Threat' and a 'Idle threat'. Users may kill for an active threat but they may not kill for an idle a threat.
   The difference between the two is situational but will always pertain to if the person making the threats has a weapon in their hand.
   For example, someone pointing a gun at you and threatening to kill you. This is an Active threat.
   Someone saying they will kill/beat you in an argument or conversation. (Unarmed, weapon on safety etc) that is an idle threat.
   You are allowed to react to an Active threat in that moment. I was not an active threat and have seen people warned for this before I was told that he is allowed to shoot me in the legs even if I am not a threat to him when asking for the rule that says this I was told "Your cop baiting" This cop was already given a verbal warning for the second clip I linked and should know not to shoot people for no reason or kill them unless there is another rule that states that what this cop has been doing is allowed then this seems like blatant RDM to me, This cop has been targeting me for weeks for no apparent reason and seems to have a personal vendetta against me which reaches out of just RP. My point being just because you are a cop doesn't mean you can shoot someone for a invalid reason.
   

[Damiano]

Did the admin sit not resolve this? In both of these situations staff already reviewed these clips. Im honored youre such a fan of me though.

[MxR]

nice 0 context in that clip buddy

[anzati1]

hate to side with the guy, but pd go past server rules and it turns into an IC issue of excessive force, 2nd clip has ZERO context, you could've had an rpg out 2 seconds prior and killed 50 people but there is no context given.
SOP states the second anyone is considered a danger to other people or yourself, you have full right to injure their legs, taze, baton, and even kill them right there on the spot. Don't think you're invincible just to be a minge.

[Damiano]

hate to side with the guy, but pd go past server rules and it turns into an IC issue of excessive force, 2nd clip has ZERO context, you could've had an rpg out 2 seconds prior and killed 50 people but there is no context given.
SOP states the second anyone is considered a danger to other people or yourself, you have full right to injure their legs, taze, baton, and even kill them right there on the spot. Don't think you're invincible just to be a minge.

Thanks best friend 

[Tables]

mfs in the collegium channel in olympus rn: omg guys!! we got drainer!! he's done for!!!

[TsumMini213]

"This cop was already given a verbal warning for the second clip I linked and should know not to shoot people for no reason or kill them unless there is another rule that states that what this cop has been doing is allowed then this seems like blatant RDM to me, This cop has been targeting me for weeks for no apparent reason and seems to have a personal vendetta against me which reaches out of just RP. My point being just because you are a cop doesn't mean you can shoot someone for a invalid reason"


If he already got a verbal warning for the second clip, why make a player report?

[Average Polish Dude]

Perm ban this man right now!

[Monaclu]

If you aren't directly involved, dont comment.

will review this in a bit.

[Monaclu]

Yeah, so an officer who is chasing a suspect going and shooting their legs to impede their movement is pretty typical. It's generally not recommended, because if the person who is shot in the leg shoots back it doesn't count as a pk. But, in terms of just baseline rules, it's something that we allow, so long as it's clear there's not an intent to kill the suspect. In your case, neither clip shows that intent.

In terms of Harassment, I'm just not seeing it here. I don't know the actual reason for the stops, but nothing in these interactions screams to me "Harrassment". After review, I've concluded that no rules have been broken here.

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Your player report has been reviewed and denied.

We have determined that the player's actions were not against our server rules or they were too minor in nature to warrant punishment.

We thank you for taking the time to file a player report.