ban appeal

[meyergoldshekel]

Your Name: Squibly (Meyer Goldshekel)

Your SteamID (Click to retrieve): (STEAM_0:0:647231828)
Reason for ban: NITRP | Metagaming | Talking OOC in RP | Tried to rape a cop

Length of ban: 2 days

Reason for appeal (dispute/apology): dispute

Why should you be unbanned?: A cop arrested me because he claimed I made slurping noises which is rape, (I did not make slurping noises). I did intend to roleplay. at the time I was banned I was arguing with a cop over whether or not I made slurping noises or if the sound of me vaping was mistaken for slurping noises (it was the latter), although you could argue that was not in RP in the strictest sense, it was material to whether or not I raped him and shouldn't have been bannable. In the minute before my ban I was trying to call a lawyer and figure out whether or not to sign a plea deal (we were arguing over conditions of the plea deal, thats obviously in RP). At the same time I was trying to call a staff member other than the one who banned my friend falsley to sort out the situation (unfortunately the one who banned my friend was the only one opening my tickets) and asked the cop to be courtious to my situation. I was banned without a sit by the same moderator who banned my friend. He threatened to ban me for being a minge earlier when I argued with him over the validity of my friends ban (because apparently only minges care when their friends are falsely banned without a sit) and refused to call another staff member who could tell him that obviously a member of my faction is allowed to interfere with a cop that is arresting me. My friend was on the sidewalk with me where I was arrested, no metagaming occured. All of this could've been avoided if my friend had never been falsely banned in the first place and all of the kind of ooc stuff like asking to to be courtious of me calling staff during the arrest is completely understandable given how stupid that false ban was and how badly I wanted an obvious fuck up to be resolved.

Additional Information (images, videos, etc): unfortunately not. Logs where I say I'm interested in a plea deal and am asking for staff other than AL are the closest thing I have to evidence.

[Alex Carvetelo]

I never refused for you to talk with another staff, I also never claimed your tickets. After i banned your friend i told you to roleplay correcly or i was going to ban you (verbal warning). You then proceed to insult me before i leave and told the cop to keep going with the arrest. Once in jail you kept screaming, talking about OOC things and rules. The cop made a ticket, i tped to him, you then proceed to talk shit to me again before i gagged you. I again told you to stop being a minge and do the roleplay scene (2nd verbal warning). When i ungagged you you kept screaming that i banned your friend for no reason (even tho i told you 4x to get him to appeal if he felt it unjustified).

In your appeal the only "defense" you take is saying your friend ban made you start to act stupid when it was not. The ban of your friend and you is a differrent story and has no reason in your ban. You were minging against the cop, insulting him/ screaming and tried to rape him when the cop tried to leave the harassment y'all were making on him. You then got arrested and kept sccreaming "THAT'S NOT A RULE" "YOU CAN'T ARREST ME BECAUSE I SLURP AT YOUR COCK THAT'S NOT A RULE". Once in the pd you kept talking OOC to the cop before i took your 1st ticket.

Chat logs could in anyway prove you that i never asked others to not take your ticket, they simply didn't take it.

I hope for this ban to stay as you deserve the punishment.
Have a good night.

[meyergoldshekel]

"I never refused for you to talk with another staff, I also never claimed your tickets."

I meant that you refused to call another staff member to the sit, not that you told them 

"After i banned your friend i told you to roleplay correcly or i was going to ban you (verbal warning). You then proceed to insult me before i leave and told the cop to keep going with the arrest."

You told me to shut up and roleplay rather than discuss the validty of the ban that I called you there for so I told you to call another staff member to explain the rules to you. I said "call a real staff member" sure it was insulting and I wouldn't do it again, but your ban was so unbelievably ridiculous and was the only reason I was still in police custody so I was pissed off. You interfered with my roleplay by banning my friend which was going to result in my 6.5k gun being confiscated for not being licensed. I spent quite a while saving up for that gun so yeah I was pissed off.

"Once in jail you kept screaming, talking about OOC things and rules. The cop made a ticket, i tped to him, you then proceed to talk shit to me again before i gagged you. I again told you to stop being a minge and do the roleplay scene (2nd verbal warning)."

I told him to give me a minute to continue filing tickets,  I was still demanding a sit because my friend was still unjustly banned and that was the only reason I was in that "scene" to begin with. I didn't talk shit to you beyond telling you to get another staff member involved in a non insulting way.


"When i ungagged you you kept screaming that i banned your friend for no reason ."

This is a lie. This literally did not happen. you disapeared the second you ungagged me so obviously I couldn't have been screaming at you. the logs show I began discussing a plea deal with the cop after being ungagged. I also asked him for a lawyer. In addition I asked whether or not part of my plea deal could involve returning to an ATM to store items he was planning confinscating and arguing over whether or not I sucked his cock, all of this is in character. you are lying. The closest I came to going OOC was a 2 sentence back and forth over whether or not I would even be in jail if my friend wasn't banned (this was part of the plea deal/atm discussion, its a fair point to consider whether or not I should lose a gun that took me nearly an hour to get over dubious circumstances, if you don't want this to happen don't ban him mid RP)

"(even tho i told you 4x to get him to appeal if he felt it unjustified)"

This all happened before my gagging and the reasoning for why we didn't just do that was It made 0 sense to type up a ban appeal for a 24 hour ban when on most servers such a appeal takes at least 12 hours (almost always more than 24) to be resolved, especially when the reason said he was banned for RDM and it would take 30 seconds for someone to tell you that its not RDM if we are in the same faction and he has my f3. At the time we didn't realize that part of your arguement was that he did it infront of the PD/Witnesses, maybe had you taken us to a sit this could've been delt with rather than banning us both without either of us getting a sit. to answer those arguements, no officers in the PD responded to the shots so obviously we weren't close enough for that to affect RP and every other witness was telling the officer not to arrest me so it wouldn't be wildly out of RP to shoot the officer in front of those people.

"In your appeal the only "defense" you take is saying your friend ban made you start to act stupid when it was not. The ban of your friend and you is a differrent story and has no reason in your ban."

again the only reason I was in that "scene" to begin with is because you instabanned my friend mid RP, you cannot isolate one ban from the other because of this. Every circumstance surrounding my ban was created my you falsely banning my friend, everything that you claim was out of character involved me trying to get my friends ban resolved (and even arguing in character over whether or not I sucked his dick, this is literally in character because its what I was arrested for).

"You were minging against the cop, insulting him/ screaming and tried to rape him when the cop tried to leave the harassment y'all were making on him."

Yes a group of 4-6 people were making fun of a cop in good humor for being a cop, if anything being as nice as we were is the only reason you could claim it wasn't RP, a bunch of criminals insulting a cop isn't minging and is completely believable IRL. Either way, I didn't "rape him" I told him to unbuckle his pants, sure it wasn't in character thing and was deserving of a warn at most but it also didn't break the law so the arrest was bullshit.

"You then got arrested and kept sccreaming "THAT'S NOT A RULE" "YOU CAN'T ARREST ME BECAUSE I SLURP AT YOUR COCK THAT'S NOT A RULE". Once in the pd you kept talking OOC to the cop before i took your 1st ticket."

you started off this post with "I also never claimed your tickets.", looks like the first line was yet another lie. and as far as I remember I was saying telling him to unbuckle his pants was what I was screaming about, I could be misremembering because I don't remember every word I said but I'm pretty sure this is lie #3.



"Chat logs could in anyway prove you that i never asked others to not take your ticket, they simply didn't take it."

This is again a misudnerstanding of my arguement.

"I hope for this ban to stay as you deserve the punishment.
Have a good night."

This line is a good example of how condescending he was being throughout the entire incident and why I was justified in seeking another staff member's opinion.

[Alex Carvetelo]

You do know that when you do a ticket other staff see it right ? I didn't call another staff for the obvious reason that they see it.

Now you claim that you never did anything wrong, fine. You also say that i interfered with your roleplay. Not like you were ruining the cop roleplay for 20min harassing him and trying to rape him ingame. Another thing i didn't mention is the fact that you and your friend are talking on discord/ in the same room, one of both. Which he used the informations to shoot the cop.

Rules you've broken: "Do not bait someone to shoot/RDM/RDA you"
"Don't punch minge or initiate arguments to harass someone."
"You may not attack/start confrontations with people in order to kill them when they defend themselves. This is considered baiting."

I still wish for this ban to stay as you deserve the punishment for the actions you had.
Have a good night.

[meyergoldshekel]

"You do know that when you do a ticket other staff see it right ? I didn't call another staff for the obvious reason that they see it."
great, you still lied about not claiming the ticket.

"Now you claim that you never did anything wrong, fine. You also say that i interfered with your roleplay. Not like you were ruining the cop roleplay for 20min harassing him and trying to rape him ingame. Another thing i didn't mention is the fact that you and your friend are talking on discord/ in the same room, one of both. Which he used the informations to shoot the cop."

He was part of the initial group "harassing" (talking to) the cop, and was walking opposite to us on the street during the perp walk on the way to the ATM, being in the same room had nothing to do with his knowledge of the arrest and where we were, you are being dishonest by leaving this out, continuing your pattern of unprofessionalism and are boarderline lying for a 4th time. saying it was 20 minutes is a gross exageration, it was like 2-3 minutes, 7-8 at the very most, if we had been doing that for anywhere near 20 minutes you absolutely should've interfered and warned us. If we were doing that for anywhere close to even 15 minutes and you didn't tell us to stop that would be another reason why you mishandled this situation from start to finish.

"Rules you've broken: "Do not bait someone to shoot/RDM/RDA you"
"Don't punch minge or initiate arguments to harass someone."
"You may not attack/start confrontations with people in order to kill them when they defend themselves. This is considered baiting.""

Jesus christ, everyone on the server does joky roasts, if it was such a problem why didn't you interfere then and warn us. his arrest wasn't him "defending himself" from light hearted jokes, I obviously didn't intend to get arrested based on my reaction. at worst I joined in on a light hearted arguement, you should've warned us if it was a problem.

[Kilo_Roleplayer]

+1
this apparently isn't the first time this staff has banned someone for arguing or AKA "minging".
If your emotions get brought into your work and you cant take a few insults you shouldn't work for diverge at all.

[meyergoldshekel]

Although my ban expired from natural causes I would still request that AL be removed from moderation duties or at least have other staff members keep a close eye on him. He lied several times in my appeal, forced my friend to appeal an obviously false 24 hour ban which still remains open two days later and was condescending throughout the entire process. He personally banned 4 people within the same hour as me and my friend and I would not be surprised if those other two bans were dubious as well. In my 6+ years playing this game and supervising several servers I have never dealt with a staff member as malicious or incompetent as AL. I would not trust him to moderate a highschool cafeteria let alone a server as great as this one.

[Canadian-bacon]

Expired